Celtic Heroes

Id just like to add.
If Unbreakable changed their clan name... would they suddenly become the newest clan on Danu? Even with all the same members?

If u think that it wouldnt, then that means Prime would be the oldest
Prime is ChosenOnes if you think about it. Defiant broke up and joined ChosenOnes... making to stronger, yes?
ChosenOnes desided to change name to Prime. Nothing else was changed.
All the original Players can be found at the botton of Primes clan list. They are not active but they are there, and many have logged for a short time then left again.
If all your original Players in Unbreakable went inactive, would u still be the oldest clan? Are you saying your players make the clan old? if so then Prime is old too, it has way more original players in it than Unbreakable, 3 times more probably.

Id just like to add.
If Unbreakable changed their clan name... would they suddenly become the newest clan on Danu? Even with all the same members?

If u think that it wouldnt, then that means Prime would be the oldest
Prime is ChosenOnes if you think about it. Defiant broke up and joined ChosenOnes... making to stronger, yes?
ChosenOnes desided to change name to Prime. Nothing else was changed.
All the original Players can be found at the botton of Primes clan list. They are not active but they are there, and many have logged for a short time then left again.
If all your original Players in Unbreakable went inactive, would u still be the oldest clan? Are you saying your players make the clan old? if so then Prime is old too, it has way more original players in it than Unbreakable, 3 times more probably.

You won't find a prime/chosenone/defiant member who retires dropping from clan, we are still dedicated even in retirement.

You could even follow our history back past clan death (Z, the old chief is still on our clan roster)

I'll update my own history of chosenones / prime later.

Id just like to add.
If Unbreakable changed their clan name... would they suddenly become the newest clan on Danu? Even with all the same members?

If u think that it wouldnt, then that means Prime would be the oldest
Prime is ChosenOnes if you think about it. Defiant broke up and joined ChosenOnes... making to stronger, yes?
ChosenOnes desided to change name to Prime. Nothing else was changed.
All the original Players can be found at the botton of Primes clan list. They are not active but they are there, and many have logged for a short time then left again.
If all your original Players in Unbreakable went inactive, would u still be the oldest clan? Are you saying your players make the clan old? if so then Prime is old too, it has way more original players in it than Unbreakable, 3 times more probably.

You won't find a prime/chosenone/defiant member who retires dropping from clan, we are still dedicated even in retirement.

You could even follow our history back past clan death (Z, the old chief is still on our clan roster)

I'll update my own history of chosenones / prime later.

Yeah, thats what i mean. ChosenOnes has Changed their name to Prime and since grown a great deal. In the other hand... Unbreakable stayed the same and has not grown. In my mind, Prime is technically the oldest and hold the most data from back then.

Id just like to add.
If Unbreakable changed their clan name... would they suddenly become the newest clan on Danu? Even with all the same members?

If u think that it wouldnt, then that means Prime would be the oldest
Prime is ChosenOnes if you think about it. Defiant broke up and joined ChosenOnes... making to stronger, yes?
ChosenOnes desided to change name to Prime. Nothing else was changed.
All the original Players can be found at the botton of Primes clan list. They are not active but they are there, and many have logged for a short time then left again.
If all your original Players in Unbreakable went inactive, would u still be the oldest clan? Are you saying your players make the clan old? if so then Prime is old too, it has way more original players in it than Unbreakable, 3 times more probably.

You won't find a prime/chosenone/defiant member who retires dropping from clan, we are still dedicated even in retirement.

You could even follow our history back past clan death (Z, the old chief is still on our clan roster)

I'll update my own history of chosenones / prime later.

Yeah, thats what i mean. ChosenOnes has Changed their name to Prime and since grown a great deal. In the other hand... Unbreakable stayed the same and has not grown. In my mind, Prime is technically the oldest and hold the most data from back then.

while your at it change your name to the riddler
(riddle me this riddle me that)

yawnnnnnn...we've all given up

p.s sorry baison for the unnecessary comments its caused with me adding to your contextual history pages

Prime is ChosenOnes if you think about it. Defiant broke up and joined ChosenOnes... making to stronger, yes?
ChosenOnes desided to change name to Prime. Nothing else was changed.

Defiant didn't join Chosenones. The clans were merged under a new name after both clans made the decision. There was no breaking up of Defiant, just a decision to make Prime with ChosenOnes and leave all the delineation of the two top clans in Danu behind.

[quote="Arachnid"
Prime is ChosenOnes if you think about it. Defiant broke up and joined ChosenOnes... making to stronger, yes?
ChosenOnes desided to change name to Prime. Nothing else was changed.

Defiant didn't join Chosenones. The clans were merged under a new name after both clans made the decision. There was no breaking up of Defiant, just a decision to make Prime with ChosenOnes and leave all the delineation of the two top clans in Danu behind.[/quote]


Buy the time that they desideed to merge, alot of Defiant had gone to ChosenOnes. I remember i was discussing with Cland if he was gona give up and join Chosen or try to keep clan going. He said he wants to try keep it live, but to many people left and more were leaving. With the mixture of Defiant nd ChosenOnes, the name wasnt right, so they made Prime, and the rest of Defint finnaly agreed to merge fullly.
A very large number of Defiant members left before ChosenOnes changede the name. They didnt suddendly transfer everyone from chosen and Defiant into Prime. Alot of Defiant didnt like the name (after all, It was the clan they they were fighting for so long). It was not only Chosen, it was Chosen and Defiant, so they changed name to not be one sided, and to put the past behind them.

before it was merges we had guardian already informing us of the merging of clan,some were not very keen on the merging.the day it was merged, afew of defiant members,(me,darkangel00,cland,skywarrior,trai,socks,Ryghor) and few more can't remember was still in group discussion whether to join prime or keep defiant alive.but in the end we decided to give it a try.but some left games thou.

No one from Defiant joined Chosenones. We all kept our respective clans until the Defiant and Chosen guards made Prime. Then after much discussion, like 3am said, those of use who were considering staying in Defiant, left the clan and followed the other Defiant members over to Prime. Most of the leaving and joining was done at the North Penn leystone in lirs.

Where is my name in all this story ??

U were there, nothing big tho. U beacame big when you scammed a Hero rejuv when transfering for a noob, which allowed you to lvl and later become a high lvl. Many ppl remmeber that, i remember very clearly. Got a nice boost didnt you?[/quote][/quote]

Oo *** retard guy, im cazzone and i never scammed a guy in all my life.
I become big because i spent full days playing the game and i was 3rd highest warrior in defiant after somar and skywarrior.
I guess u *** turd , u confussed me with someone else, ***

The history is important and we are all lucky that is has been preserved. Us V4 players essentially walked into a cold war. There is hurricane of propaganda and persuasions that we are vulnerable to. Getting the Historical context makes our minds stronger against this to make better decisions, as it is safe to assume that words are far more impactful than our weapons. That being said, some of these questions are devoted to historical context and some are devoted to the tangent of what is currently happening now.


That being said here are hard questions for veterans to consider.

For as long as i remember Somar was the leader of Defiant.

1. For those who remember Somar, What would Somar do about the Resetting Wars?

Back in those days Defiant and ChosenOnes were top and they hated eachother. Words cannot decribe the hate between them, it is like prime and unbreak times 129420.

2. So, the pieces that were formally at war, joined to create Prime? Who's Idea was this? As the group who suggested this should be preserved in the Historical context of Danu of Legends. Who suggested this early? During the phases in which he or she was laughed at?

2.a. Was the transition smooth or rough? How do two clans who formally hated each other work together to dominate? How were the diehards loyal to their clan to a fault persuaded?

Reaper was chief of Chosen and Somar was chief of Defiant

3. Based on what is known about these two, what would they do, if anything, about the Resetting Wars.

It lasted a long while but eventually many Defiant members left to join ChosenOnes and Defient began its downfall.
At this time Somar was on a break or may have quit (to soon return for a short time) idk wat he was doin. Whilst Defient was sinking Clandeathtine was the chief and did all he could to keep the clan goining but unfortanately it was to late

So Defiant, weakened and members left to the Chosen Ones

4. Is this similar to the way Honour (Nitro) is becoming weakened as members are leaving for Prime? Or is the current situation not comparable and different from this.

Very soon after Cheech created Prime!!!! All the rest of Defiant and all of ChosenOnes went to Prime to make it wat it is today

So, Cheech facilitated the birth of Prime through combining an already weakened Defiant with the Chosen Ones who previously were at war.

I find this interesting that two previously warring factions combined and ended up dominating the world.

5. EDIT (This question serves no purpose)

cheech decided to merge clans to be able to handle the new bosses in v3.

6. So the strategy was to combine forces in preparation of the new update which obviously was effective, but to say one person decided would maybe be far fetched. Was there anyone else who decided this with Cheech? And if so who is this person?

6a. That being said and drawing from my experiences of Danu, it appears that the new update looming, the old strategy of reaching out to a warring faction to combine forces has been replaced by Prime lower level requirements in order to gain more forces in preparation for the new update. I assume this because at the time of lower lvl requirements Prime was already in control of Danu. Is this true, or am I thinking too much.

No one from Defiant joined Chosenones. We all kept our respective clans until the Defiant and Chosen guards made Prime. Then after much discussion, like 3am said, those of use who were considering staying in Defiant, left the clan and followed the other Defiant members over to Prime. Most of the leaving and joining was done at the North Penn leystone in lirs.

So there is disagreement in Defiant bleeding members to Chosen Ones beforehand. Putting this aside for a moment.

7. Was Chosen Ones and Defiant at equal strength during the merger or was one stronger than the other? When I ask stronger I mean obviously stronger, if it was slightly…then consider it equal for this question pls.


Lastly a question specifically for Unbreakable.

What is the recipe for loyalty?


Apologizes all around if any of these questions are counter productive or loaded. While the primary reason for this thread was to preserve Server history, it almost inadvertently reveals a sort of framework, obviously for Clan domination. But maybe even for Danu equilibrium and peace in the future. Danu is a difficult place for a new player, clans in recession feel like Crimea, or Syria, surrounded by and puppeted by Stronger clans foreign policies.

Warm regards, Biason