Celtic Heroes

I speak to u as a person. Emil Rousseau. Believe it or not. I have been playing ch again for abit. The msg i put i was leaving was a new page in my ch adventure. I now am ready for a complete change.

I have been a player of this game for awhile now and have been in many many clans. There is one clan that always was more special to me: MuktumInPavro. That clan had been my dream since I started playing this game. It was a clan that showed to the leaders from md and golg at that time what a bunch of friends could eventually do. I created that clan with my 2 good friends at that time: Kilt and Dang. MD had just been disabled. I offered to these 2 persons to create a clan coz we all three were clanless. At the begining i didnt know it would have turned out so good. I knew back then already that my 'apprentice' :p dang was intressted in joining ava. MultumInPavro was just a fun clan with 3 friends then. Then i eventually decided to give myself 100% in it. Alot of people at that time were unstable in clans and there wasnt really a big clan beside ava then. So we recruited and build and build the tower. I decided when there were about 20 people in clan to make kilt chief. I did promote him when he was offline so he couldnt argue :p. Coz i knew then already: that guy is someone i could follow. We turned out to make good progress and we invited 2 other people which names i will always remember. Johngalt and leisa. I barely saw guys like em so hard workin for a clan. And we invited more and more and more. Alot of people wanted to join they saw a good clan with just a bunch of friends. Then at a time there was a down. People joined avalon. Our relations with Avalon were never bad. It was easy for our guys to make an application. We lost alot. But we went on and on. There were conflicts. Like in every clan. Kilt handled em like no one else would. And we went on and on.

At that time the carrowmore-update was almost there. We told each other to focus on it. John turned out to be unactive and keri and lei both joined ava. Ino and uru left too. Created the xza. So i was then with kilt and a great grp of friends. I always will remember what Imma told me at a moment: 'bob we are a good grp of friends but we need to take back more bosses.' Then i knew: we need a motivation boost. I eventually talked to kilt telling him we needa change. I even offered him to make doo join or make a new clan with doo. Coz thats what people motivate: the change. When something new happens. He didnt wanna believe it. For sure he was the best friend and chief u could have. But sometimes he denied truth. I wanted to change something in our clan so i held my arguement and he held his. So we talked and eventually there started a lil conflict between us. I agree i did mistakes but so he did. And he knows that too.

Well after... He left... Leaving me chief now thats not what i wanted so i disabled the clan. Yes like this. No more mip. No more. Since then i tried to talk to him i learned that he went gwydion. What should I say? Knowin the last thing i heard from him is that he never wanted to talk to me again. Well. I did tried to talk to him and he said it was ok. I still feel sad it ended like this. The bigest mistake i made is not to be patient once again. Yes im like that. I can push people. I wanted to much to be the best i guess. And i am sorry.


It is after this story that i now annonce that I leave ZA. ZA had been good project. I did my very best and defended and fought for this clan and his players. I respect most of the players that are in it. Call em corupted pricks. I tell u now one thing and please remember this: you can judge em on the clan there are in but please take in count their good will, motivation, work and loyality that they showed. Thats what makes a good player. Wether u do things with 100% of ur heart.
I can name alot of names in za that i wanna thank for the good moments and support du ring the less good moments.

Why do i leave now? Eventually I got tired of it and the issues around it. Now yesterday i first checked my line for a sec. Was full of msgs about the 'spy' that could be in ZA. I right after reading the first msg just deleted the app and checked ch forum. And then i found this topic about ZA and about my egg farm and the comments in it. I just knew its done for me. I did my best from start in every clan i have been in and i feel that i do not deserve this and im tired of it. So i leave. But i do this with sadness. It is the first time i will leave a clan. I usually left clan till the very end. Now i step out of the boat. So this is for me for sure no victory. No congratz needed.

Now u can ask me why I didnt leave before. The answer is simple. The friends that are in here always kept me here. Alot of friend left especialy was hard for me when Sora did. But from then on the good friends in ZA supported me.

I wanna put a last comment on the 'ava-hate' thing. Eventually alot of ZA do indeed hate Avalon. Some of ZA just doesnt care. U know when u are in a clan and ur with ur friends the outside cant bother u hein? Well I indeed just didnt bother about ava. First of all coz i believe in 'good Competion and bad competition. The competition between Ava and za was bad. So i never came to Arena for example. Or never even watched avalon doing a boss nor griefin em. Secondly i have known alot of amazing friends that went to ava. I eventually never talk to em but respect and love remains for the ones.

Where i will go. I dont know. I wont joun any clan soon for sure. Ill eventually just solo and be with myself. Talk to my friends without a problem in all of morrigan. I agree its not gonna be easy. I hate being on my own playing ch. I will probably if nothing special will happen barely play till update... I will look for the fun again. Thats my final msg.


Thank you for reading all.


Emilus

When you told me you were leaving game Bob, I urged you not to. When you said you would not change your mind, I wished you well. Let's get one thing very straight here, I openly confronted you on ZA clan chat because you would not stop covering for a ZA main whose alt was in ZAx and both stealing drops and bullying mains. Read Rocho's reply to Crims post. If you do you might understand WHY I was so angry, that as a Gen in ZA you felt that was acceptable. Not a single guy in ZAx when I was put in charge there could say I was not loyal to ZA. I motivated them, and one way I motivated them was by choosing officers to assist me who were fellow ZAx mains. Apart from Inoue and Ururu (who did work hard for both their clans), most ZAx Gens were alts of ZA gen mains and regarded ZAx as simply a great place to pop into to level their alts and take what they like. What a great example to mains that was (not!).

It became a farce, me telling ZAx mains what a great and honest clan ZA was, while steadily discovering it's leadership left a lot to be desired. These ZAx mains were giving it there all Bob, longing to be in Big ZA. When they started to come to me and tell me about one particular ZA main, bullying them, swearing at them if they dared to ask him to hand a drop, what was I supposed to do, ignore it? That would have made me at best, a useless leader to them and at worse as corrupt as some ZA officers had become.

So many of those mains were working their socks off to get to you guys in ZA. It was me who thought up the idea of each guy getting a leaving gift from ZAx when he/she reached the magic 150, and me or another ZAx officer taking that player personally over to be recruited by Inoue or Ururu with a ZA Gen present, at Carrow, and that on being recruited that player received a welcome gift from big ZA. This was all about trying to bond ZAx and ZA closer together and most of all about letting each ZAx main see that they mattered, they were important, they were valued. But this care of good players who had graduated into ZA was not carried on. I had guys who had graduated to ZA ask me to give them the guide of the bigger boss areas, also asking for help with training. I couldn't help them, I was working flat out in ZAx and other than helping at a few ZA bosses, all my time was spent on my work in ZAx. Really, once players from ZAx got into ZA they felt abandoned. They had worked so hard to reach 150, but of course once in ZA, among many 170s and 180s, they were treated as nobodies. I know Justecy loves his officer meetings; that feeling of utter supremacy as to what 'lowly' clansman deserves DL, but he and other leadership in there weren't thinking about something else that is very important, giving time over to encouraging new members, fresh from ZAx and naturally feeling all at sea. These things matter to a player more than a pair of DL cyber gloves. Showing care is what inspires loyalty.

When you left ZA Bob I didn't gloat, far from it, when ZAx guys asked if you had done something 'bad' I told them you had always been a respected player among many on this server. Inoue opened a, 'Bob's Gone Let's Party' group on ZA LINE...not a SINGLE clan member joined it Bob. So that should tell you that apart from Inoue, none of the rest of us wanted to 'party" at your leaving, and that included me. Yes, I had that one very big issue with you, but when it was sorted it is then over for me. I don't like to do 'Victory Rolls' as it were....it never is about 'victory' for me, it is about maintaining good conduct. I have only punched the air once with delight and that was at the demise of one player in ZA, when messages began flooding into me that that ThugBrat rogue in your clan had been banned. I did rejoice in that because he is an out and out *** who has bullied, threatened, stolen, ksed etc etc the entire time he played on Morrigan, and with a preening, smug arrogance.

As to you not wishing to be, 'alone' in this game, as in clanless. You don't have to be Bob. Thanks to ZA leadership both protecting and endorsing ThugBrat, ZA lost player after player.....and all of them worth a million times more than ThugBrat. Blue, Soroman, Dubbsy, Lew, Ulani, Blood, Argos, Tortilla. Goddo, Crim, Rocho, now SDavy. These are all massive players Bob, all had such loyalty to ZA, all lost, all wasted due to lousy leadership. Many more in ZA who stay are not at all happy in there (they tell me every week!). What I am saying to you Bob, is you haven't 'suffered' anymore than those other players, in fact less so as at least you enjoyed the privileges of high rank in ZA and sadly did not use your rank wisely.

Those other great ex ZAs are not floating about in 'poor me' mode. They have all gone on to help smaller clans. In fact what is really great now, is that clans like Et, Triq and DS are trying hard NOT to repeat the old ways of Gol and Marath; the wasted energy of fighting each other more than the damn bosses! These clans will even help one another at DL bosses. Kes's clan is the same. All of these clans have great players and I respect them. So don't waste your huge game knowledge and skills, floating about collecting chickens.....even if you don't want to be in any clan right now, you can let other clans know you will group to them if they need help. Tok clan is another one full of aspiring young beasties, and they always appreciate the odd bit of help from a high level player.

Yes, of course players are loyal first and foremost to their own clan, but Gol was lead with a Nazi Germany mind set. It doesn't have to be that way in a bloody game! I am proud of the country I was born into and proud that my Dad and his brothers served in WW 2 against that unfathomable Hitler (one of my uncles dying in that war, aged only 27). But I don't hate Germany...I respect the different countries of this world (the people of those countries, though not some of the dictator pigs that sadly lead them). I am really enjoying the freedom clans now give me (DS let me hop over to Kes's clan for a bit), and Avalon don't mind me having the enormous joy of taking part in some of their boss kills. They brought Necro down so fast last night....the lines of rangers was for me EPIC....as in seeing an endless shower of arrows reigning down on Necro. Add to that all the colours of tanks and rogues, mages and druids, watching mobs contained well back from the boss.....it is just bloody wonderful Bob. So I don't give a spectral anymore for those in ZA who declare me a 'traitor' etc etc. In fact the appalling conduct of ZA leadership, the kick in the bollocks to ZAs who were actually so loyal to them, has simply proved to me once again, that the old style Gol and Marath leadership style is not the way to go. I, along with other loyal ZAs who left because of corrupt leadership, don't feel 'alone' at all Bob....there is no reason you need to be either. So don't wander game in a Wordsworthian mist of, 'I wandered lonely as a cloud'. Just have fun, I know I am!

PS....

I am glad you wrote on forum so I do know it is the real Bob who has come back! You had made a 'leaving' post and it ended emphatically, as in this was 'it', you were never coming back. So naturally, when the Bobbo avatar appeared, and exactly at the time of ThugBrat's demise, I could not be sure it was the 'real' you. Given your account history and long standing friendship with that player and his absolute cunning, I have learned to be cautious.

And I am heartened that you too don't 'hate' those ex Pav and ZA guys who went into AV. They simply don't deserve it. As Oni pointed out we can't all like one another in game, but it is just crazy to 'hate' and openly throw abuse at someone (as some have done), who left ZA for AV. Just like I am not 'flavour of the month' with ZA, nor will I be liked by many in AV but I have no problem with that, it would only be a problem if they stopped me training etc. I know some people in particular don't like me at all, and that is their choice, they're right, but they don't take it too far and stop me from training as someone did. They are two highly skilled players, far more so than I am, and between them they have so many high level alts when I have e always struggled just to get Zap up the training ladder. I can also well understand that former Marath players who still have great respect and loyalty to a player, will of course dislike me, cos he does! The min. I returned to game he was also trying to stop me train. So I am not creeping up the AV posterior as it were, and what a true fool I would be to do so. I don't meet the skill standards of that clan but I am hugely comforted that some players I knew from their earliest days, did meet those standards and are in there. Also ones that I didn't know until later on, like Aer. Keri, Leisa, Blue, Argos and Sor who I feel were 'used' more than respected in the clans they were in before.

I am going back to DS now; my fellow clansmen in their have always been funny and kind hearted. If they ever see me grouped to Tok, Kes's clan etc they don't mind, cos they know it is about trying in some small way to help other good, honest and determined players get DL without thinking the only road open to them is ZA. Blood and Lew were both fantastic ZA and I love them both to bits.

PPS After obliterating Necro, I went down to train at Wyrms and a bit later, as I did the circuit, there was AV whacking Mordis.....I gave up on my lix and had a great time joining in. Again, even the AV who don't like me one bit, don't tell me to '*removed* off'. Maybe they will eventually but I can still watch them take these huge bosses down. That is what I downloaded this game to do. Seems to me some former clan leaders in this game left a terrible legacy behind them, and good on Chiefs like Kilt who lead in a democratic way and never bullied or trashed his clan behind their backs. And good for the newer clan chiefs in game who are doing the same. Come on you damn fine beasties of Morrigan....this old mage salutes you all and doesn't give a damn what clan you are in!

I wanna add some info as i feel that u complety misunderstand me about that player in xza stealing drops from za. I back then really appricated ur work, yes me the bad gen who cant be a gen... I often logged in xza to see ur work. I was silent. It was amazing. I indeed defended the cause of that player simply because sometimes u cannot exprimante urslef in a normal, calm way. U started shouting on line and using bad words. I just tried to put some water over it to calm it all down. I think i told u this. And now he wasnt my beste i barely talked to him i must say. That is because i just wanted to keep on whats going on. We were doing so good. But ofc me putting the water above the fire didnt make the fire stop and u started insulting me in line chat. So yet later on when we both cooler down i talked to u and we did had a good talk. We both apolgized and that is how its gotta be. I dont see why u tell me this again man. Weve been thru this.

Further on i am so pleased to hear ino made that chat room. is that what u wanna hear? You know its allright u can try make me feel my time there was wasted. But its actually just a choice i made like u made urs and if she hates me or doesnt like me? I knew that already me and her are not besties at all. But thats np since i have u mate he?

If i used my rank bad? Well if u say so. See the answer comes outa mouth of the clansmen. They gotta say it. I just know i did my best. If u liked it or not? Well if thats the only thing u can say... I eventually got demoted once by ino. What did i say out loud on line? Or even on game? Nothing. Ofc i was sad and and angry . Oh and how kind were u then: 'sorry bob i heard u got demoted'. Oh well, just shut up next time u say these kinda things to me on game and then write i didnt use my rank good. Really tbh i knew u and ino were both so happy. I couldnt bother more lol. But yet i could have indeed left clan at that time. Idk why but i just sticked with some friends in there. Sora was still there i remember. I just then logged for fun and talk i didnt work for clan much back then after my demotion i gotta admit.

About that other player. Well its not right what u said about me and him being good friends. Tbh we just fought together in clan for bosses and eventually talked a few times. Like i did with pretty much all of the clan. If u say im a good friend of him thats not true. Simply coz idk him well yet. There is one thing that we agreed back then with a few clan members. I woulda gave zerks druid to him to dual device zerk had left game then already. That was a choice we made coz i couldnt dual device with it and we needed that druid to be used so we made that choice. And eventually a few weeks after use it got disabled. Thats all what happend between me and him. If that answers ur questions. We did accepted him knowin it would be hard for us with ava putting presure. But hell did we even care back then? No way. If it was a bad choice? I know from start that he wouldnt be an easy player. Blue said to me several times she didnt like him and so did others. Well lets say it was a bad diplomatic choice to let him in. But a good dps asset. We eventually didnt care about the diplomatic part of the choice. But yet now i couldnt answer that question. For me it was a choice, just a choice. Wether good or bad. It turned out to be bad at occasions but good too sometimes.

I hope u understand more of my situation now.

I miss you Bob. Hopefully you remember me, I used to level with you in 2011/early 2012. I never knew why but, I was never urged to talk to you (then again, I am quiet a lot...) but I completely understand your situation, so I'm sure Zap will.

Have fun!

Hey Bobo, I'm glad to read your story of your past in Morrigan. Its good to hear about other's experiences. If you happen to be online and I am on at the same time, it would be nice to have a good conversation.

That was the other thing Bobbo that I found deeply un impressive about some ZA alts in ZAx....they didn't want to let mains know they were alts! It became clear to me that there were no clear rules for ZA officers themselves to abide by. Would have been nice when you came into ZAx on your alt to have told me it was you! Geez what a joke it all was. And NO Bob, I didn't shout at all on ZAx, and the last thing I wanted the mains in there to know was that your pal Bonzo (as I can't say his actual name), who was stealing their drops and swearing at them, was getting away with it thanks to you! You have a great skill Bob of being extremely charming while completely insincere. Inoue kept telling me you hated her and wouldn't allow her to stop Bonzo from doing as he pleased. You even whispered to me at one point saying, 'Please, you have to stop Inoue booting Bonzo'. I didn't care what ZA did with him, all I wanted was his damn alt out of ZAx. Your leaders in ZA wanted me to sort out all the damn problems in ZAx (Inoue told me herself that not one Gen in ZA would go into ZAx and take that on) but at the same time you leaders could have complete power over ZAx as you did ZA.

The reason I confronted you on ZA was cos your reply to my original message on ZA LINE chat, explaining Bonzo's alt could NOT remain in ZAx stealing and bullying mains, was a load of unintelligible garbage! You even went on about, 'wrong things right themselves and you just need to wait'.....that is why I asked you what then was the point of having any clan rules let alone officers, and if you truly believed things just 'worked themselves out', why the hell were you a Gen! You didn't bother replying to that, you simply left the group in a huff. This was another hilarious feature of ZA life....anytime I didn't grovel to leadership, but dared to confront any of you, one or other would either leave the group or expel me from it.....LOL.

So no Bob, we didn't ever, 'talk it all through', because there was nothing to talk through. Bonzo was a selfish, greedy, moaning pain up the bum (I mean even in a training group he either moaned about not having lixes or he kept logging and then logging back to get the XP). And how ever much you twist and turn you were protecting that player. I don't know why, but as one ZA said, it was like you were married to him! Also Bob, your history with ThugBrat has done you no service.

Actions speak louder than words, you say one thing but do the opposite; you are leaving for good, then you come back. You are going to be 'clanless' and announce you don't look forward to being 'alone' but one ZA guy told me you are still in ZA. So quite frankly trying to understand who the real Bob is, is like trying to knit fog!

I can only lol at this one bud.

I really dont see in why u keep having the same arguement when u talk to me. U keep talkin about that guy in xza stealing drops. I think u should just read it again and again and again. Maybe ull come out with new arguements... Coz the only thing u can say is how bad I was back then at that moment. Well lemme tell u one thing, u may have been a great chief in xza and helped em out alot. But i do know u. And u did ALOT of mistakes too. Saying things to loud, being not nice, insulting. See ur just the best friend to have man! So please i advice u to just move on. The fact is what i said and what u said is rubbish. After that I told u i wanted to protect what was to be protected. Well maybe u should look at it the other way then on that player: I barely know him, he helps at bosses, hes a good asset for clan. Thats what I cares about at that time. If it was wrong or right? Idk that right, prolly more wrong then right. People can do mistakes, like u did and i did.Now if u tell me im bf with him, since ur the all-knowing-forum-bookwriter lol. Its really botherin me thats ur only arguement. Coz that makes me a bad gen for u.

I still believe in that theory about things that work themselves out. See the problem with ur justice is that u sound like doing justice in the middle-âges. You just say ur thought and when others say something else u god damn tackle em fkers!
Well thats u, u see. In normal ways this would have happend in a calm way. U would say ur thought, others would say theirs, i would say mine. And we god damn shut up afterwards. Then we find out if hes guilty or not. Eventually a vote like in the normal ways. U were just in some sorta trans back then, for justice i guess. Well people were pissed off about it, i can tell u that.

Oh and yes for u we did talk it through, sorry bob ur demoted can i get some coffee? Ur just a fool bud. Really u write good. but on some occasions u could shut up. Thats what i say to u.

Well rumor has it again. Its good to know that u play it fair and that za players provide u ''info". Go buddy! I can just assure I am not coming back to ZA. So yet if u can only confront me with rumours, i feel like im wasting my time.

Bob, Only recently on this forum I spoke about how in ZAx there was a major theft problem, and how when Arrosg and Crim came to me to tell me who it was and should we boot him straight away, I told them that without 'proof' we could not do that. Getting that proof took time, but I would rather take time than ever boot an honest player!

When it came to you protecting Bonzo, again I did NOT, as you are now twisting it, immediately do anything when ZA mains began to complain about him. I hoped it would pass, settle down of its own accord. It didn't. Eventually those mains were sending me screen shots of Bonzo at bosses swearing at them, also refusing to hand drops to ZAx Main officers. It was at that point that one of those ZAx mains said to me, 'Zap are you going to stop this or just let it happen?'. He was quite right to do that, I had been put in that clan to make it clean and run efficiently. That was my JOB Bob. To do that means protecting the best and not tolerating the worst. I booted Bonzo and literally 5 mins later he had his alt recruited back into ZAx by a ZA Gen.

Go and ask players like Helmer, Nom Nom (PizzaParty), AlphyOmega, Whisky, Reedy, Awesome, Voo, RevX, Turtle160, John Galt, Red and many, many more in this game who at one time were in a clan I was chief of, if I ever exploded with temper at them, or rushed to boot any guy suspected of scamming or drop theft, before having proof. Go and ask those guys if I never consulted clan about issues, seeking their advice. I was not the angry dictator you wish to paint me as.

I do not know what hold Bonzo had on you but he felt he could do as he pleased in ZAx because he had your protection. He had a long history in this game of walking close to the edge (and was booted from Marath for stealing). He and his alts were awash with lux items while at the same time he moaned endlessly about needing lixs, wanting items he hadn't got. He lurked endlessly at the castle selling boss drops. I mean wake UP! Stop wriggling and STOP trying to now turn me into some kind of rabid dictator, I never was! YES, I make mistakes, of course I bloody well make mistakes. Those who know me will know I do and I apologise when I make them Bob. I have acknowledged on this forum my mistakes, But I am not a cheat and I loathe cheating and when I see it and I see a ZA leadership doing it and covering for it, I will NOT stand back and do nothing. You covering for Bonzo gave me a huge amount of work and struggle to finally have him removed from ZAx.

I don't act on 'hearsay' EVER, so don't accuse me of that when it is totally untrue. There are players like Red and Luuky who chose to leave AdAstra but don't despise or hate me, the reason being that they know I never treated them badly. Even players like Arrosg who don't like me, could not possibly ever say I was nasty or cruel to them.

My anger comes Bob when players like you REFUSE to acknowledge facts that are presented to you, that either by wilful arrogance or complete stupidity, you feel entitled to reject facts because they illuminate poor conduct which you don't want to be accountable for. Justecy is the same, present him with absolute proof that he is lying and he simply runs away from it. If anyone lives by 'hearsay' in this game it is him. No wonder your little officer club in ZA was so cosy.

It is quite simple Bob, when I think something is wrong (whether in life or game), I don't rush in, I wait and gather evidence that is required, I also always consult with others. Why the hell do you think I promoted Mains in ZAx to be officers Bob....it wasn't so I had a cosy officer club of 'pals' so we could then abuse our status and steal from our clansmen or bully them. I didn't even know Arrosg or Kes before I went to ZAx. I promoted both of them fast because I saw they had characters suited to help clansmen, ditto Voo, ditto Mark, ditto Rocho. I knew none of those players prior to being in ZAx. The only officer I did know prior to ZAx was Crim. He was not promoted because he was a 'pal' but because I knew that like Nom and John Gault in AdAstra, he was a first rate and totally reliable player who would advise me well. Mains in ZAx needed fellow mains as there officers, not Justecy swanning in on his alts to train them up, take what ever he wanted and piss off back to ZA. The only alt Gen in ZAx who lived up to his title was Dozey (and his main in ZA wasn't a Gen). I discount both Ururu and Inoue because they did come in and help mains when they could, also they were running ZA. The problem was, Inoue was stressed out and Ururu, while gentle in character, didn't seem to understand that his officer base in ZA was a joke, and the proof it was a joke was the way it didn't give a toss for ZAx, and you Bob exemplified that by covering for greedy, lazy little Bonzo, happy to do nothing while allowing him to bully and steal in ZAx. For that alone, I repeat what I said to you at the time, you are not worthy to be an officer because you are unable to even understand that to be one you must be more committed to your clansmen than you are to yourself or any of your 'pals' in that clan.

Graf (DS player and a gentle, dear man), said to me recently something I used to say and hoped for, he said, 'I don't hate Avalon at all, I just wish their could be a clan like them so there was honest competition at the top'. I used to believe it could happen if players who had been in Gol and Marath united and realised for there to be serious competition with Avalon, a clan must be made where the chief and all his officers are 100% honest; good hearted and encouraging to those in clan who work and are honest, and ruthless about any who start to beg, steal etc.

The problem is, another Aileron hasn't appeared on this server, and more and more of the very best players on this server naturally end up in Avalon.

Ururu and Inoue cannot be accused of being dictator chiefs, but many of the mistakes belonging to the old Gol and Marath days have been repeated in ZA. Officers are equipping their alts with DL while many high level mains in that clan have little to none. Donated items were going missing constantly in ZA. Nothing about bullying and trashing clan members was addressed when it came to ThugBrat the rogue. Only Soroman confronted him, and still he persisted in trashing even Inoue! leadership changed after I left but didn't actually change at all....ThugBrat still protected by leaders, still allowing him to trash, bully and ks any ex ZA he wanted to punish, and when he gloated about it openly on ZA chat, some officers, even the so called new 'chief' , not telling him to stop. What a bunch of writhing worms, of spineless, two faced, greedy cowards.

So yes Bob, boy was I angry and when you show to me that your own mind set is still stuck where it was: complacent, unable to see the vast damage you contributed towards by not putting your best mains before your worst ones, simply ignites my anger again. It is YOU Bob and the rest of ZA leadership that have provided Avalon with more and more great players and not one of them would have left if instead of hating Avalon, your leaders had adhered to their same high standards. As many ZA have said, you were taking spectral in the end, just as long as it had '150' above its head. By doing so you were demeaning all your best and loyal players.

You don't get it, ZA leadership don't get it and you and they never will, because to 'get it' Bob you would all need to accept that you ruined ZA because you put yourselves first always.

Write what ever semi illiterate crap you like in return. I won't even bother to read it Bob. I tried my best to explain to you way back on ZA chat, WHY Bonzo had to go and WHY you covering for him had to stop. You didn't accept it then and you still don't. Fine, I can't make you accept facts Bob (and it was a fact by the way, I deal in facts when it comes to players...their conduct, not someone whispering to me and saying, 'I hate X and he is 'gay' and he stole my staff ...bla...bla'. Nothing I ever confronted you ZA leadership with was fiction as in 'hear say'. If you can't handle facts Bob then God help you in your life ahead.

Lol, sorry i didnt read the first paragraphes. Come on bud, change ur arguement.
Its ok its over now, he eventually got kicked later and i voted for kick. So yet i wont bother reactin to the first paragraphes.

Oh *** it was cosy in officer room. Why dont u ask sora and argos too cor example. Hell i couldnt care less about that room. We used to bring cookies and cake to make it fun!

I just added bonzo on facebook. Hes so cool!
Nah seriously i do know my frienda qnd they know me. So yet idgaf about the rubbish u writting.


I cant say anything more. I hope u and people saw in that u didnt react at all at what i told before.
Its just funny. Eventually u should indeed not read anymore nor write.