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Re: Tit for tat...

#12
Ail shut up youre just a sore loser. There was one troll pulled so you messed up a whole mord raid but dragging and unfreezing priest, were you that mad? Dont answer that we all know the answer. That wasnt tit for tat at all, maybe you should read up on the words you keep using and understand their meaning, i never doubted your intelligence, but this is giving me some doubts
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Re: Tit for tat...

#13
I’m obviously not from Morrigan (although I did make a mage a while ago), but I can definitely relate to Avalon’s response.

Regardless of what has happened before this particular incident, interference with a raid boss is much MUCH more significant than griefing on another boss. Instead of ruining the experience for let’s say 8 people, you’re ruining it for 20-30+. I don’t understand why you would create a thread when according to the facts, it was members of your clan that started the raid boss resetting issue, and it caused a response where your own Mordris raid was ruined… The subject of whether there will be continuous raid boss interference is of course a decision made on an individual basis.

As comparison, I am in the dominant clan on Crom and every other clan knows that if they ruin the experience for our clan members, we will retaliate 10 fold. Kill a questing member in the arena? We will kill your entire clan on sight for a long time. Reset or grief a boss we’re killing? We will return the favour as well as gladly ‘farm’ where you’re lixing when we see you. The key point is that every member of a clan represents every other person in the clan.

It’s not a territorial thing, neither is it abusing power. We just happen to have more power therefore can retaliate stronger. Hopefully that sheds some light, if it doesn’t then I guess you need to be in a dominant clan to understand.
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Re: Tit for tat...

#14
I’m obviously not from Morrigan (although I did make a mage a while ago), but I can definitely relate to Avalon’s response.

Regardless of what has happened before this particular incident, interference with a raid boss is much MUCH more significant than griefing on another boss. Instead of ruining the experience for let’s say 8 people, you’re ruining it for 20-30+. I don’t understand why you would create a thread when according to the facts, it was members of your clan that started the raid boss resetting issue, and it caused a response where your own Mordris raid was ruined… The subject of whether there will be continuous raid boss interference is of course a decision made on an individual basis.

As comparison, I am in the dominant clan on Crom and every other clan knows that if they ruin the experience for our clan members, we will retaliate 10 fold. Kill a questing member in the arena? We will kill your entire clan on sight for a long time. Reset or grief a boss we’re killing? We will return the favour as well as gladly ‘farm’ where you’re lixing when we see you. The key point is that every member of a clan represents every other person in the clan.

It’s not a territorial thing, neither is it abusing power. We just happen to have more power therefore can retaliate stronger. Hopefully that sheds some light, if it doesn’t then I guess you need to be in a dominant clan to understand.
Previously, one of my clannies dragged one one or two trolls on Avalon's Mordris raid, which our cheif wasnt happy about, which apparently is equal in Avalon's terms as to prevent us from getting the Mordris kill. Granted, i dont condone my clan's actions which I hope I have made abundantly clear, but for reasons of "equality"' this retaliation completely missed the line. You are saying just what Aileron is, that you can and will retaliate worse, and as I have previously said, its a matter of whether you should, not your capability.

You're right when interfering with a raid boss is technically worse than something else because of people affected, which is not my point, though.

I never once said my clan and everyone in it is perfect. I also said previously that my post applies to my clan too. But as a whole, we dont have a mentality that we should get back at someone by doing things that cause nothing but anger and hate. Avalon has the right to outlock us on as many bosses as they wish. And they also, indeed, have the capability to retaliate. I am not saying that you cannot retaliate. I asking why you would retaliate, when it causes nothing but anger and fustration in a game that is supposed to be enjoyable. I do not want a bitter environment in the game, and im sure not many other people want it either.

Re: Tit for tat...

#15
One day, if I come back to game, I will get level 500 and solo mordris and laught at u all muahahahaha *evil laught*
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Re: Tit for tat...

#16
I’m obviously not from Morrigan (although I did make a mage a while ago), but I can definitely relate to Avalon’s response.

Regardless of what has happened before this particular incident, interference with a raid boss is much MUCH more significant than griefing on another boss. Instead of ruining the experience for let’s say 8 people, you’re ruining it for 20-30+. I don’t understand why you would create a thread when according to the facts, it was members of your clan that started the raid boss resetting issue, and it caused a response where your own Mordris raid was ruined… The subject of whether there will be continuous raid boss interference is of course a decision made on an individual basis.

As comparison, I am in the dominant clan on Crom and every other clan knows that if they ruin the experience for our clan members, we will retaliate 10 fold. Kill a questing member in the arena? We will kill your entire clan on sight for a long time. Reset or grief a boss we’re killing? We will return the favour as well as gladly ‘farm’ where you’re lixing when we see you. The key point is that every member of a clan represents every other person in the clan.

It’s not a territorial thing, neither is it abusing power. We just happen to have more power therefore can retaliate stronger. Hopefully that sheds some light, if it doesn’t then I guess you need to be in a dominant clan to understand.
I agree with fellow Mage. It's almost like messing with family, UN or any alliance Ingame or irl. If you attack one of them, then you are basically attacking all of them. It is just how bonds work. I share this type of bond with some players in CH and if they complain about someone messing with them, better hope that person can Lvl without killing glad because the arena will be on constant surveillance. Usually when this happens that somebody wants to talk it out and we solve the problem resulting in both parties learning something. Anyway the bottom line is that some clans can have the family effect and consequences may be more influential then one might think.
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Re: Tit for tat...

#17
I asking why you would retaliate, when it causes nothing but anger and fustration in a game that is supposed to be enjoyable. I do not want a bitter environment in the game, and im sure not many other people want it either.
Those members in your clan who dragged the trolls during Avalon's Mordris raid, do you think they will do it again knowing that the consequence is their own raids being completely ruined?

I don't think Avalon's intent is to create a 'circle of hate', but to show what happens when you (or any other clan in Morrigan) steps out of line.

Anyway, that's enough of me talking on behalf of Avalon, I don't have the authority to do so and I don't wish to get involved.


Hope you guys resolve the issue peacefully.
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