Celtic Heroes

Golgatha... a good clan, ive been wanting to be in it ever since i started the game. Really nice people and i rlly dont care if u people dont like it cuz i do. And i wont give up on them

Golgatha... a good clan, ive been wanting to be in it ever since i started the game. Really nice people and i rlly dont care if u people dont like it cuz i do. And i wont give up on them

This fella has some gumption !

Golgatha... a good clan, ive been wanting to be in it ever since i started the game. Really nice people and i rlly dont care if u people dont like it cuz i do. And i wont give up on them

I'm sure Golg will appreciate that you created a new forum account just to post this.

Please read this with an open mind. Please do not just read this already knowing what you're answer will be, no matter what the post says. If you are gonna read this with all your bias and prejudice, then please dont bother. Just read. If you disagree thats fine. But just hear me out on this one.

I will agree that skull can be... a bit much. I have been in golg for a long time- I've seen the problems. I know they exist. I dont deny them. BUT...

People say he's a jerk: I know he used to yell at the clan a LOT, often for silly stuff. I know that was what caused many people to leave. I understand that. But you have to realize, he has litterally thousands of real dollars invested in that clan. when things are not looking good for the clan, its EXTREMELY stressfull. He has a heck of a temper, and can get pretty fired up. So if he is having a hard time, either on the game, or in real life, things can get ugly. But I have not seen him yell at all for quite a while now. Yes, every once in a while somebody does something stupid, and he lets em know. But that is expected from any clan chief: thats their job. Over all, he has been really calm and friendly recently.

People say he's greedy: He has spent litterally thousands of dollars in plat, helping golgatha members. He shows up at our bosses, and helps kill em so we get the stuff we need, even when he has his stuff already. People say he's greedy cuz he equiped all his alts, and there are still people in golg that havent been equipped... 1. He has spent more time, money, and effort attaining these drops and equipment than anyone else in the clan: if anyone is entitled to the stuff, its him. I have NEVER, in all my time in golgatha, felt that he kept something that i deserved.

People say he's rude to other clans... I actually find this funny(keep open minds guys) think about it: You say hes mean and nasty and rude... but you are not exactly polite to him either. There will always, unfortunately, be hard feelings between avalon, marath, and golg. People say not-so-nice things. I will not deny that skull can be a jerk to you guys... but no more so than you are to him.

Nobody is perfect. We are only human. Everyone makes mistakes, everyone is WRONG sometimes, and nobody likes to admit it. Everybody has flaws. Skull is human. He has bad days like the rest of us. (skull, i'm sorry if you're reading this, but...) there are times when skull screws up. I know, I've been there, I've seen it. But the thing is, the same applies to everybody on this planet, including you guys.

So if you hate golgatha based on your opinion of skullcrusher, I really think you need to step back and take a better look at him. You might be surprised what you find.

Thank you for keeping an open mind and hearing me out.

You say hes mean and nasty and rude... but you are not exactly polite to him either.

I did read this with an open mind. I totally get what you're saying, but I have never said one foul thing to skullcrusher (Or anyone on our server, for that matter.) and he has still sworn at me and has before told me to "lick it". I understand that there are some in my clan that hates Golgatha members simply because of skullcrusher, but I have never agreed with this so what did I do to get harrassed? I'm not posting this to cause drama or any of that crap. I'm just giving my opinion the same way that nighthawk is. After all, this is my opinion and my opinion shouldn't bother anyone else, and if it does then that's your problem. Nighthawk, I respect your decision to stay faithful to skull, and I'm glad to hear you don't feel undercut in any way. Have a nice night, all

You say hes mean and nasty and rude... but you are not exactly polite to him either.

I did read this with an open mind. I totally get what you're saying, but I have never said one foul thing to skullcrusher (Or anyone on our server, for that matter.) and he has still sworn at me and has before told me to "lick it". I understand that there are some in my clan that hates Golgatha members simply because of skullcrusher, but I have never agreed with this so what did I do to get harrassed? I'm not posting this to cause drama or any of that crap. I'm just giving my opinion the same way that nighthawk is. After all, this is my opinion and my opinion shouldn't bother anyone else, and if it does then that's your problem. Nighthawk, I respect your decision to stay faithful to skull, and I'm glad to hear you don't feel undercut in any way. Have a nice night, all

thank you. Its too bad everybody cant be this mature. I'm glad to hear you dont harass skull. thats nice of you, especially if he pesters you. My thoughts on why he treats you poorly: You are, as I'm sure you know, a "symbol" of avalon. If anyone was asked to list some avalon members, you're name would be 2nd or 3rd in line. Obviously, skull, as chief of golg, isnt gonna be best pals with any avalon, especially a central part of the clan, such as yourself. When he sees you in the game, he sees the word "avalon" floating above your head before he sees your name. Obviusly that is no excuse to treat you poorly, but once again, everybody has flaws. I personally think the whole clan rivalry hostility thing is stupid. If it was up to me, we would all get along. But thats obviously not gonna happen anytime soon. try to treat everyone fairly and with respect. Obviously ailwen does the same. If more people would do that, we would all be MUCH happier people.

thanks for keeping an open mind: I know its tough to see around pre-conceptions and assumptions.
good night all.

Can't really say your post has much merit Nighthawk. You're the same guy who makes a thread in the GENERAL DISCUSSION forum of all places when you see people arguing in the Morrigan castle. Guess what, it happens on all servers, block the people shouting nonsense and move on. Don't make a thread on it in the general discussion forum of all places begging people to stop, it makes Morrigan look stupid.

All clans will have their fighting and bickering between each other. It dies down, comes up again later. Just part of the game. The reason Skull is treated the way he is, is because of how he's treated others. He may have decided to lay off on how much of an *** he's being, but all characters in this game are judged by what they've done in the past. It's a stigma that sticks with you. We know what he's done in the past, we know how much money he's spent in the game, this is EXACTLY why people give him crap. He gave crap to others when spending money allowed him to do so. Now that you can't buy your way to winning, you can't idol kill bosses anymore, people give him crap in return. It's great knowing how much he's invested in the game and he can't kill a game boss to save his wallet. It's pathetic on Golgatha's part, but awesome for the rest of Morrigan.

And if you're riding with someone like that (which I don't know why you'd want to be in a clan that gives you a bad rep and can't kill bosses that count), don't be surprised when you catch flack as well. Sure not all golg mess with people, but people like Agros, likes to mess with people when they're solo leveling, we can return the favor. And the cycle will eventually repeat over and over again.

Can't really say your post has much merit Nighthawk. You're the same guy who makes a thread in the GENERAL DISCUSSION forum of all places when you see people arguing in the Morrigan castle. Guess what, it happens on all servers, block the people shouting nonsense and move on. Don't make a thread on it in the general discussion forum of all places begging people to stop, it makes Morrigan look stupid.

that had nothing to do with this thread. That was a personal shot at me. That is exactly what keeps hostilities going. I could just as easily take a personal shot at you, and we would get no where. Thanks a lot.

All clans will have their fighting and bickering between each other. It dies down, comes up again later. Just part of the game. The reason Skull is treated the way he is, is because of how he's treated others. He may have decided to lay off on how much of an *** he's being, but all characters in this game are judged by what they've done in the past. It's a stigma that sticks with you. We know what he's done in the past, we know how much money he's spent in the game, this is EXACTLY why people give him crap. He gave crap to others when spending money allowed him to do so. Now that you can't buy your way to winning, you can't idol kill bosses anymore, people give him crap in return. It's great knowing how much he's invested in the game and he can't kill a game boss to save his wallet. It's pathetic on Golgatha's part, but awesome for the rest of Morrigan.

And basically that boils down to "we're jerks to him cuz hes a jerk to us(which he does because we're jerks, but we're only jerks because hes a jerk)" It goes on forever, with everybody pointing the finger at the other person.

And if you're riding with someone like that (which I don't know why you'd want to be in a clan that gives you a bad rep and can't kill bosses that count), don't be surprised when you catch flack as well. Sure not all golg mess with people, but people like Agros, likes to mess with people when they're solo leveling, we can return the favor. And the cycle will eventually repeat over and over again.

so you're saying because a handfull of people ks, you will ks the rest of golgatha who have never bothered you?

And for what its worth, we kill plenty of bosses that "count", and even if we didn't I would stay here. I am not in golgatha because they are the strongest, I'm here because I have friends here that I know have my back.

Thanks for completely ignoring the whole part about

Please read this with an open mind. Please do not just read this already knowing what you're answer will be, no matter what the post says. If you are gonna read this with all your bias and prejudice, then please dont bother. Just read. If you disagree thats fine. But just hear me out on this one.

Thanks for completely ignoring the whole part about

Please read this with an open mind. Please do not just read this already knowing what you're answer will be, no matter what the post says. If you are gonna read this with all your bias and prejudice, then please dont bother. Just read. If you disagree thats fine. But just hear me out on this one.

Well it's tit-for-tat. oNi has his biased opinion and you have your own biased opinion. Agree to disagree ey?

Thanks for completely ignoring the whole part about

Please read this with an open mind. Please do not just read this already knowing what you're answer will be, no matter what the post says. If you are gonna read this with all your bias and prejudice, then please dont bother. Just read. If you disagree thats fine. But just hear me out on this one.

Well it's tit-for-tat. oNi has his biased opinion and you have your own biased opinion. Agree to disagree ey?

I am not pointing fingers at anybody. I try to keep an open mind about everybody. If I see someone ks or scam, I avoid them in the future, sure. But if they change, I give them the benefit of the doubt. And I dont try to get them back, or keep the problem going. And if that person is in a certain clan, i dont think badly of that clan because of one person's actions. So no, in this case, i do not have biased opinion. And I did not personally attack anybody either.