Celtic Heroes

Look, you guys can say you dont condone griefing. In your old clan Triquetra, you even posted the clan philosophy of no killin in arena for no reason. YET YOUR MEMBERS DO IT ANYWAY. It means nothing to us if your leaders say somethings's not allowed but your members get off scott free by violating every rule you have.

I'm not a fan of havoc or ava, but I will say this, both clans have some good people and some bad, but seems havoc is more respectable and doesn't pull the dirty tricks that ava does. If I am living alone in a pit, havoc will leave you be. Ava on the other hand, will lix over you, and waste your lix, and if you complain, suddenly you have a 210-220 player of theirs come in pit and kill everything until you leave. Sorry but that's a scummy move. I have watched a few of the mordi fights from afar, and yes, I have seen ava drag mobs onto other clans often. Or they would get their boy Executive to drag the mobs for them. The game is meant to be fun for everyone, but seems ava will resort to any dirty trick to prevent other clans from getting end bosses, and I must say they have the worst attitude for a clan that should be setting an example for the rest of Morrigan. Honor and integrity are not part of their play style. They prefer to bully other players and put down everyone that isn't in their circle of friends. Watching both clans from afar, I have to respect havoc. They at least help out other clans and players, and they don't ask anything in return. Of the mordi attempts I have witnessed, I have seen one havoc player drag a mob onto ava at least twice. As Aileron stated, mob dragging has been going on since before havoc, and he is correct. It's Ava that usually starts the mob dragging, and then they get upset if it happens to them. Perhaps ava should learn to control its people and their mouths, maybe start learning what honor and respect and fair gameplay mean. If you want to discuss this more, I will be in 210 pit or arena. Come see me.

yet another person who wants to bash but has to make a fake, anonymous account. at least have the decency to post who you are in game instead of hiding behind an alias. come see you at arena? think you forgot to post your name.

Before destiny engine i had respect for both clans (had respect=i dont know how the clans are now because i cant play). I have recived help from both clans. Observer you are wrong. Ava does help players outside of clan and friend circle and will not ask for something in return. I know from experience.

Name is there. Observer. No need to get mad Aileron. We all know the truth hurts, and the lack of honor and respect for your clan due to its ways must hurt. You talk the talk about honor, yet don't walk the walk. No wonder other players look up to havoc and the other top clans, yet scoff at avalon.

Name is there. Observer. No need to get mad Aileron. We all know the truth hurts, and the lack of honor and respect for your clan due to its ways must hurt. You talk the talk about honor, yet don't walk the walk. No wonder other players look up to havoc and the other top clans, yet scoff at avalon.

Welcome to the forums. Pretty weird you just had to make a forum account just to attack us. But I never said anything about Avalon's honor. I talked about Havoc's lack of. especially those who came from Triquetra's culture. Same players with a different clan name. But all this talk started when Rocho chose to bring this conflict to the forums, and wondering why they were griefed. The answer should've been really obvious.

P.S. Pretty sure we'll see you with the Havoc tag soon. You just made a good impression to them. Hating Avalon is the first requirement.

Look, you guys can say you dont condone griefing. In your old clan Triquetra, you even posted the clan philosophy of no killin in arena for no reason. YET YOUR MEMBERS DO IT ANYWAY. It means nothing to us if your leaders say somethings's not allowed but your members get off scott free by violating every rule you have.

Yes I still have our conversations in pm on here regarding that and I dont dispute that. except for the scott free part but you seem to know what went on in Triquetra???

your intent was to wipe us at Mordris, doesn't matter how or what you were able to do.

I was responding to this Aileron, you presume to think it was clan Havoc's intent to sabotage your raid lol, when infact you are completley wrong.

Honestly, I never had reason to be on forum. My posts are not hate for ava, it is an honest critique of what I see. I have no interest in joining havoc or ava. I have been around a long time and I see how your clan acts. I do not feel you should be lecturing other clans about doing things that your own clan does often and have been doing for years. As for Triq, they are no prize, but they are havocs concern now. I'm not being a havoc cheerleader. I could care less about either clan. I just find it very hypocritical that you complain about the very tactics that you employ. Over the years, I have seen your tactics well, your dirty little tricks. Ava does everything it possibly can to prevent other players from getting end bosses, and by chance another clan does get lock, there are no good words, only insults from your players. This is not a hate post Aileron, it is a simple honest observation of how your clan conducts itself. Hate would imply feeling, and I have no feelings for you, havoc, or any other clan. You are the most powerful clan, so start setting an example for others. Bullying, intimidation, lack of fair play, interfering with lixes and end bosses, are not examples that should be taught or followed. If Ava is better than that, then act like it. Same goes for havoc.

your intent was to wipe us at Mordris, doesn't matter how or what you were able to do.

I was responding to this Aileron, you presume to think it was clan Havoc's intent to sabotage your raid lol, when infact you are completley wrong.

I'm still aghast Havoc keeps denying this. Intentionally dragging trolls that got our druids killed during the Mordris raid is IN FACT, A SABOTAGE. You guys are unbelievable.

I have watched a few of the mordi fights from afar, and yes, I have seen ava drag mobs onto other clans often. Or they would get their boy Executive to drag the mobs for them.

You need glasses Observer because your observations are a little off. Both clans will tell ya that there has only been griefing at two Mordris'. Once Avalon was griefed by Havoc and once Avalon griefed Havoc. For the most part I think both clans are pretty well mannered with minimal trouble at raids. Griefing on the big bosses doesn't really happen. Avalon had a point to prove, we did it and now it's done. Mess with our raids we will return the favour ten fold.

Once a Havoc unfroze the HP but we discounted that as an accident maybe it was maybe it wasn't but we gave the benefit of the doubt anyway. Another time durring a Hrung lock battle the we lost two dps players from the same household at the same time due to a power outage. When they logged back in (Havoc won lock) they were standing in the same spot and a troll chased one and so he was accused of pulling mobs. My point is that both clans had ample excuse to retaliate but we did not. Griefing is just not as bad on Morrigan as people think. Avalon and Havoc fight often for XP spots for but no not raid bosses.

I don't think I ever seen Exec griefing Havoc on Mord maybe it was when Avalon wasn't around? Exec does not need an excuse from Avalon to mess with Havoc, he has his own reasons to do so and also Avalon has no need to ask anyone out of clan to grief-we can do that ourselves and we proved that yesterday.

Tell us your ign. If we are lucky you could be Havocs newest recruit!