Celtic Heroes

your intent was to wipe us at Mordris, doesn't matter how or what you were able to do.

I was responding to this Aileron, you presume to think it was clan Havoc's intent to sabotage your raid lol, when infact you are completley wrong.

I'm still aghast Havoc keeps denying this. Intentionally dragging trolls that got our druids killed during the Mordris raid is IN FACT, A SABOTAGE. You guys are unbelievable.

I have watched a few of the mordi fights from afar, and yes, I have seen ava drag mobs onto other clans often. Or they would get their boy Executive to drag the mobs for them.

You need glasses Observer because your observations are a little off. Both clans will tell ya that there has only been griefing at two Mordris'. Once Avalon was griefed by Havoc and once Avalon griefed Havoc. For the most part I think both clans are pretty well mannered with minimal trouble at raids. Griefing on the big bosses doesn't really happen. Avalon had a point to prove, we did it and now it's done. Mess with our raids we will return the favour ten fold.

Once a Havoc unfroze the HP but we discounted that as an accident maybe it was maybe it wasn't but we gave the benefit of the doubt anyway. Another time durring a Hrung lock battle the we lost two dps players from the same household at the same time due to a power outage. When they logged back in (Havoc won lock) they were standing in the same spot and a troll chased one and so he was accused of pulling mobs. My point is that both clans had ample excuse to retaliate but we did not. Griefing is just not as bad on Morrigan as people think. Avalon and Havoc fight often for XP spots for but no not raid bosses.

I don't think I ever seen Exec griefing Havoc on Mord maybe it was when Avalon wasn't around? Exec does not need an excuse from Avalon to mess with Havoc, he has his own reasons to do so and also Avalon has no need to ask anyone out of clan to grief-we can do that ourselves and we proved that yesterday.

Tell us your ign. If we are lucky you could be Havocs newest recruit!

Honestly, I never had reason to be on forum. My posts are not hate for ava, it is an honest critique of what I see.

Not one member said to drag mobs on you during that raid in clan chat, One individual did without prompt, We dispute the fact you claim it was clan Havoc as a WHOLE to do so.
I cant be any more clearer!

Honestly, I never had reason to be on forum. My posts are not hate for ava, it is an honest critique of what I see.

More like biased opinion, you say all these things about Avalon and accuse them of griefing etc when havoc do the same just they can't back it up with as much strength. This is a game, if you want to put it plain and simple, Avalon excersize their strength to show competing clans (in this case havoc) not to mess with them. To make a forum account just to bad mouth another clan because you feel you should isn't a very believable reason. Either you're an alt of a havoc supporter or a fake account pretending to be the public opinion on Avalon. Either way your "honest critique" is just biased opinion used to continue this argument.
Good day

Not one member said to drag mobs on you during that raid in clan chat, One individual did without prompt, We dispute the fact you claim it was clan Havoc as a WHOLE to do so.
I cant be any more clearer!

And yet again it falls under the claim that "The clan Havoc doesn't care what members do. Individuals can act as they can please but don't blame Havoc if they do something bad." Yeah, same ideals as Zombie. As Triquetra.

Time and time again, and I'm basically repeating myself now - What your members do is a reflection on the clan. If you don't want those kinds of members to get your clan in trouble, then there is a simply and easy solution.

Honestly, I never had reason to be on forum. My posts are not hate for ava, it is an honest critique of what I see.

More like biased opinion, you say all these things about Avalon and accuse them of griefing etc when havoc do the same just they can't back it up with as much strength. This is a game, if you want to put it plain and simple, Avalon excersize their strength to show competing clans (in this case havoc) not to mess with them. To make a forum account just to bad mouth another clan because you feel you should isn't a very believable reason. Either you're an alt of a havoc supporter or a fake account pretending to be the public opinion on Avalon. Either way your "honest critique" is just biased opinion used to continue this argument.
Good day

Again it seems the message isnt getting through here, There is no directive from anywhere in clan Havoc to pull mobs. An individual did it. As I have seen individual Avalon members do the same and I wouldnt imagine they have that directive either. So this post is going nowhere tbh.
Guess Rocoh's point has been missed that Im sure everyone can agree that this sort of behavoir is unsavory and ruins the game enjoment for everyone on both sides.

Lets move on please.

I also suggest you take a hard look at your clan and some certain individuals that do not hesistate to pull mobs when you are absent. you reek of contridiction Aileron.