Celtic Heroes

Umm never said it was ok. In fact I called him an idiot in clan chat when it happened. Your clan isn't innocent as you claim it to be. Perhaps you should ask your clannies to come forward to you if they have pulled mobs on us at mordi during times u were not there. If they have any respect for you they will.

Really Toastie? Really?

So now it's us who pulled mobs first on you guys?

EVERYONE KNOWS if we REALLY pulled mobs on your raid, YOU WOULD HAVE NEVER GOTTEN THE KILL.

YOU KNOW IT, I KNOW IT, EVERYONE HERE KNOWS IT.

We could have easily pulled mobs as we sat there and watched you guys plat zerge a raged mordris for the last 15 percent. WE DIDN'T. We SHOULD have since you're now up here lying that we did.

Like I said, we might as well start ruining each other's raids going forward, it's even more valid since you'll lie and say we did anyway.

My question is, when you lose every single raid going forward since you guys can't kill griefed bosses but we can, are you going to make another FAREWELL I'M QUITTING thread here or will you spare us from more of your lies?

As i said the only havoc mordris raid i missed was when you guys finally killed her. So are you accusing Avalon on griefing on that raid now? In all your failed Mordris attempts, we just watched you get slaughtered and waited til it reset.

We are here arguing because you keep insisting that Havoc shouldnt be held responsible for its members actions. You guys got angry that we retaliated because of your clanmates actions. Basically youre are telling me we shouldnt have done anything because its not Havoc who did anything and that we should just be okay with what that member had done, because according to you, "Havoc doesnt grief".

You ever wonder why you never got accepted to Ava? Its because of stuff like this. You have never shown an iota of clannie loyalty. You have never had your clanmates back. In your stint as Chief of Triquetra, you acted the same way, always quick to throw a clannie under the bus. "Im not with them", "I didnt do anything wrong, only my clanmates did". "Im not involved in this". These are the common excuses we hear, especially when we fight folks in Arena while you and other people in your old clan just stood there and watch us kill your clanmates.

For all your pretentious statements that Havoc doesnt condone griefing, we never even heard a peep of an apology. Lol wow you called him an 'idiot'. Thats just awesome! Thats what raid griefing in Havoc gets you ladies and gentlemen!

Not that it matters, I really couldnt care less, especially now. We got even. Just because we didnt wipe and you guys did, doesnt make it unfair.

Ahhh, Ms Blue, mayhaps you have figured things out, mayhaps not. We all play our part in this world. From heads of companies to simple film makers, from law makers down to the common rogue fighting in arena. I just observe, and tell what I see, which is truth. Two wrongs don't make a right, but yet they still argue. Truly pathetic. Good day Ms Blue. I am sure I will see you soon.

We are here arguing because you keep insisting that Havoc shouldnt be held responsible for its members actions.

Where have I said he hasn't been held responsible! show me those posts!
If you read my posts clearly he has been by the Chief. And its not my place to say what happend.

And simply yes a very small minority of your clan has pulled on us during Mordi attempts previously when you were not present.
They know who they are.

Really Toastie? Really?

So now it's us who pulled mobs first on you guys?

Sorry Oni but I have gone through my posts and I never said quote "you (Avalon) pulled mobs first on us"
All I have said is that you have done it on previous Mordi attempts I couldn't care less If you think its a lie Oni I know what I saw you choose to not believe it...... meh makes no difference to me.
Again with the insults nice.

You ever wonder why you never got accepted to Ava? Its because of stuff like this. You have never shown an iota of clannie loyalty. You have never had your clanmates back. In your stint as Chief of Triquetra, you acted the same way, always quick to throw a clannie under the bus. "Im not with them", "I didnt do anything wrong, only my clanmates did". "Im not involved in this". These are the common excuses we hear, especially when we fight folks in Arena while you and other people in your old clan just stood there and watch us kill your clanmates.

F.

I think and still do Arena is waste of time so If I failed to get into Avalon for that Im ok with it. I went to camp killain and eat my lunch

The bigger issue is really that you can't just man up to being a bunch of asshats. You are looking for a reason.
If Ava shows up to a boss that any other clan is killing (one that they wanted anyway) they will all stand there and spew mad unfathomable talk trying to get everyone going. As soon as one person talks back to you, pulls a mob or does anything in retaliation it you all of the sudden feel justified to do whatever you want cause you're now the victims. Again, you've done it to every other clan on the server for years. Apparently you NEED an enemy to keep you going, which is fine. I'd imagine killing the same stuff over and over and having all the level 100s basking in your glory in the arena gets old after a while so you need something more from the game. That's all fine and good, but it's the "holier than thou" attitude that is really *** annoying.
Again, please pick one sentence to refute and let the bigger points go, that seems to be par for the thread.

Sorry Oni but I have gone through my posts and I never said quote "you (Avalon) pulled mobs first on us"
All I have said is that you have done it on previous Mordi attempts I couldn't care less If you think its a lie Oni I know what I saw you choose to not believe it...... meh makes no difference to me.
Again with the insults nice.

You're saying we pulled mobs on your previous Mordy attempts which would be prior to the raids we've been discussing this whole time, where YOU GUYS choose to pull mobs on us first.

So you're saying we were the first to start pulling mobs on mordy raids.

You're lying. Just stop it already.

The bigger issue is really that you can't just man up to being a bunch of asshats. You are looking for a reason.
If Ava shows up to a boss that any other clan is killing (one that they wanted anyway) they will all stand there and spew mad **** talk trying to get everyone going. As soon as one person talks back to you, pulls a mob or does anything in retaliation it you all of the sudden feel justified to do whatever you want cause you're now the victims. Again, you've done it to every other clan on the server for years. Apparently you NEED an enemy to keep you going, which is fine. I'd imagine killing the same stuff over and over and having all the level 100s basking in your glory in the arena gets old after a while so you need something more from the game. That's all fine and good, but it's the "holier than thou" attitude that is really ****** annoying.
Again, please pick one sentence to refute and let the bigger points go, that seems to be par for the thread.

It's a game, are people not allowed to talk trash in a game? But you're saying, you guys are allowed to respond to trash talk by pulling a mob or doing something in retaliation, and we're not justified in returning the favor? By doing so we're acting holier than thou? GTFO.

Once again, the one time you killed mordy, we didn't pull any mobs, we didn't say unfathomable, interfere, nor cry about it on the forums after. The very next mordy you guys pull mobs after we lock? We TELL YOU to expect the same in return. When we keep our word, all the sudden it's a problem and you're crying on the forums about it? Way to take your loss like a man.

Sorry Oni but I have gone through my posts and I never said quote "you (Avalon) pulled mobs first on us"
All I have said is that you have done it on previous Mordi attempts I couldn't care less If you think its a lie Oni I know what I saw you choose to not believe it...... meh makes no difference to me.
Again with the insults nice.

You're saying we pulled mobs on your previous Mordy attempts which would be prior to the raids we've been discussing this whole time, where YOU GUYS choose to pull mobs on us first.

So you're saying we were the first to start pulling mobs on mordy raids.

You're lying. Just stop it already.

We had 3 attempts before successful one were you there I don't recall you being at all 3 but I wasn't really looking for you either.

We have never griefed a Mordris raid until yesterday. Havoc started the Mordris griefing in this server. That's the plain simple truth.

This is why I have responded to Ail, Because we have been interfered with before. I'm not crying over it just merely stating fact Aileron hasn't been present at all our attempts.
But I'm wasting my breath keep being accused of being a liar. I don't really have anything to gain here.
But I could not sit back and not respond.

I'm ending now as this post has gone to insults.

Lets just enjoy the game.

Sorry Oni but I have gone through my posts and I never said quote "you (Avalon) pulled mobs first on us"
All I have said is that you have done it on previous Mordi attempts I couldn't care less If you think its a lie Oni I know what I saw you choose to not believe it...... meh makes no difference to me.
Again with the insults nice.

You're saying we pulled mobs on your previous Mordy attempts which would be prior to the raids we've been discussing this whole time, where YOU GUYS choose to pull mobs on us first.

So you're saying we were the first to start pulling mobs on mordy raids.

You're lying. Just stop it already.

We had 3 attempts before successful one were you there I don't recall you being at all 3 but I wasn't really looking for you either.

I was there the day you killed mordy. You guys tried two times back to back, we didn't pull mobs to ruin your raid either time or else you wouldn't have killed mordy.

Ail was there your other attempts and said they just watched you get slaughtered and wait til it reset.

You keep saying we pulled mobs on your previous mordy's and we've interfered before. If that's TRULY the case, why didn't we pull mobs or interfere the day you did kill mordy?

Don't forget how we got here. We didn't start the mob pulling on mordy, nor did we start this thread. That's on you guys.