From what im reading if i played on taranis id be blacklisted, some of these rules are just 'tarded. Sorry for your circumstances OP, keep the fight up
No.. Almost everyone on Taranis is not blacklisted. You become blacklisted when you either:
- Steal raid drops from a clan that requires you to return them (not all clans require this)
- repeatedly (and I mean many times repeatedly with substantial warnings) disrupt/grief another clan's raid boss kills
You can be unblacklisted by either getting permission from the clan you stole from to keep the drops you stole from them, or by returning the raid drops you stole to the clan you stole them from.
For example: Trock here stole raid drops from Aeon. He is currently blacklisted. If he does not want to be blacklisted anymore, he just has to return the stolen raid drops. Simple as that.
The only penalties for being blacklisted are:
- no endgame clan will take you in (a clan can't join raid boss rotations with blacklisted members in the clan)
- you won't be grouped at DL/EDL camp groups
It's not hard to be unblacklisted.. But generally once a year a few underleveled blacklisted players try to cause a huge fuss about Taranis being oppressive and controlling because they can't enjoy the endgame anymore due to not wanting to return their stolen property which they promised to return.
As for our rules being " 'tarded ", how is allowing any clan* to kill raid bosses and camp DL/XDL without flame wars and wasted elixirs and griefing and all those bothersome childish acts " 'tarded "? Benevolence calls us oppressive, but we are more the opposite: we do not KS, we do not have silly feuds for bosses, and we give rights to those who simply do not wish to join an endgame clan.
There are plenty of servers managed by the "might is right" doctrine, but Taranis is not one of them. If you are into that sort of play style, go join another server! Including Trock, there are only 3 active forumers from Taranis, so the widespread support of the Taranis endgame system is rarely voiced. Yes, being a criminal on Taranis is a crappy position. But so is being a criminal in any developed nation.. Fortunately, it is easy to get your blacklisted status removed: simply return your stolen items.
I would kill myself if I had to save "points" just to get my dl gloves xD Here's a system which pretty much every server (with the exception of Epona) uses, kill a boss, bank the items, and hand them out to players that you think deserve the items.
I see you are only level 159, so prepare yourself: most endgame clans distribute gear by basis of a points system. We used to follow the system you described, however it is difficult to determine who camps when there is no record of attendance. The gens may think the vocal guy who is online whenever the generals are is the camping the most, but the silent Australian who actually attends 75% of the spawns (many while the gens are offline) may be putting in a lot more effort. What would usually happen then is the prior getting geared first. Point systems allow gearing based on true effort, not just activity when those watching are online.
Thank you all for the feedback these is the kinda of stuff we deal with on a daily so just figured we'd voice our opinions where they will be heard by many and hopefully lead to a change!
We're cannot finish game literally blocked and bared from doing bosses at to say the least we are fed up!
Please stop acting like you the victim of some oppressive regime.
Our server rules are designed to achieve fairness and protection to all people and clans, allowing peaceful expansion and efficient use of materials as opposed to the blood baths most other servers see. We have found great success in this system, and even at times where one clan was in a position of superiority and could easily condemn the rules their generals have always had the integrity to uphold them. The rules in no way give the endgame clans more power, actually they limit the power of the two largest clans. Aeon and Pride could easily decide to only include themselves in the boss rotations or not have rotations at all, we could kick Para and Nexus from camp groups and make it so the other clans struggle to get an Aggy. Instead we share the wealth to all clans who seek it, and grow as a server.
Yes, your clan is "blocked and barred" from doing bosses until you guys return your raid drops. Even then, you would be hard-pressed to kill even Mordris (after all, you only have 1-2 druids and hardly any Rangers). After returning your drops we could easily continue to block your clan from doing much of anything besides complain and spread lies, but we will not: we play by the rules, and if you want to join us we expect you to as well. You stole our raid gear, so before we grant you endgame rights we want our gear back.
You are a scammer, you scammed us of gear, and just as you wouldn't elix with or group someone who scammed you until they gave back the stolen items, we won't either. Your gameplay is not being limited because we feel like being mean to you or we don't like you, but because you betrayed our trust and stole our items. If your clan wants to rejoin all the benefits of the established order, your members need to return their stolen gear or get permission to keep it. The longer you wait the less drops you are getting.
