Celtic Heroes

Ok time for me to have my say again, for one i only suggested 120 druids and 140 mages. I in no way suggested these other requirements.

Now im sorry shad but i actually agree with kam and the others. As the same with every other boss before aggy the level requirement has been 10 levels under the boss and i still think its an acceptible requirement. Now you just pointed out that the people who have made it to 150 deserve a reward, now all i see here is greed, to get to 150 was a choice none of you were forced, everyone deserves the same treatment. I would push for level reqs to go to 140 for dps and 120-130 for support characters as this will allow everyone a correct reward for these.

Now you say leveling is easy and im sure it is for people who have the time or the money to do it. I do level when i can afford to or i have the time to but as i go away on holidays or study or even work i struggle to find the time to level, as you can tell my characters dont level in weeks but all of a sudden i gain 5-10 levels. Its simply because i save to mass level, but my motivation slowly fades as i see these dps requirements increase higher and higher. I have not reached 130 let alone 140 on any character but given time i will reach these levels. Same applies for many others.

The way i see it is you decide to raise the dps requirements to lower the amount of people able to recieve a drop. Now my suggestion to fix this is:
- leave the requirements as 140 for dps but slowly increase the support towards 140 as i am a druid i wouldnt care for this to slowly be raised even to 120 now.
- restrict the groups to 2 groups maximum. That way only 16-18 (not sure on maximum people in groups) people can dice at maximum. And atleast 4 people would be druids, thus raising your chances on getting a drop.

I would also like to point out to other tanks this boss is possible without shad it may take a few extra minutes but we can organise it and kill without him. I would encourage this. That way he can be killed quicker and there will be more drops circulating throughout lugh.

As a druid i get many drops some i dont want others i do. If i get a drop i dont want i sell to who it seems fit at the time, although with aggy i havent been so lucky, i have won 2 rings i have kept, everything else i have bought. And i have sold 3 items. I had to buy a bark ring for 100k, and a book for 100k also. I am yet to find braces, but i am not willing to restrict these dicings to my accord.

I believe the level requirements should be as follows:
-warrior 140+
-rogue 140+
-ranger 140+
-druid 120+ (possibly 130+ servers choice)
- support mage 130+
- dps mage 140+

Even at 140 they do enough damage to kill the adds and do enough damage to aggy himself.

Now sarge you must understand that even though we may be under the same clan name as someone doesnt mean we follow them completely people have their own opinions and suggestions some are just too quiet to voice them. I wont agree to raising dps to 145 at all.

I agree on lvl requirements, bot not on all handling of these.
Motivation and rewards has been mentioned as important factors for lvl requirements, and I can confirm:
My main motivation for grinding levels up to 130 was that I would get the chance to partake in aggy fights. But as I reached 130 and prepared myself for action I discovered that req had been increased to 140.

This was highly demotivating, as was the announcement that the top level players of Lugh were planning to keep pulling the bar up behind them and increase boss fight reqs to 150 when update 4 is launched.
I dont want to whine and I will only express this frustration this one time, together with a wish:
Those lvl reqs that are established now for todays main bosses, should remain the same. If future bosses demands higher lvl reqs thats fine, set higher reqs for those new bosses that demands this, but this is no reason to rise reqs for bosses that dont demand higher lvl reqs.

Lughs top players are pioneers and absolutely deserve to come first when it comes to top fights and drops, but you are already there. Todays lvl 150s + will always be the first to the table and the first served. That in itself is a great reward for all your grinding, and well deserved.

But please don't keep pulling the bar up behind you.

I started my post by : "Your hateful comments are welcome lol !!" and this thread is about level rec opinions.

Everyone have the right to disagree with my opinion, but I don't see the point for so many hateful comments, especially from Sarge, who just do not contribute with any positive comments but simply keep going his hateful behaviour.

I think I have sacrificed a lot of time, energy, and money to support many time taking dow huges bosses and this since V2 and the first take down of Fellfire and Chili. Thousand of plats. When some see greed from me, I just see selfiness and jealousy. Do even player realized hom much plats i spent to do all these bosses ???

Thats is mostly why in my mind, the players who spend the most of their time leveling, sacrifying the most their real money to support taking down bosses, doing the most damages, healing the most... the most useful for all should have the opportunity to be equiped by the best ingame items first.

This is my opinion, you have the right to disagree, but simply hating me, having fun of me is just low.

I mean is it difficult to grind 5 level in a group with friends in the new cave ? Again the point is to push players up, so we all deal better damages to the bosses. In my mind, players all wants Aggy's items when they simply still are so rare.

Once again, how many braces did drop from Aggy ?? so few ! If I am not mistaken less than 35 : meaning 35 aggy kills.

Berserkers : about 14 Braces
Shad : 3 (bought 1)
Thing : 2
S007 : 1
Daft : 1
Jaaaa : 1
Wytt : 1
Wendell : 1
Dulce : 1
Azz : 1
Darv : 1
Sabre : 1

Ancients : About 12 Braces
Callu : 2
Ani : 1
Ak : 2
LG : 2
Magic B : 1
Lady B : 1
Heal : 1
Thoro : 1
Artio : 1

Thorn : About 3 Braces
Kam : 2
Sarge : 1

Afermath : 1 Braces
Longcool : 1

"Outsiders" : 3 Braces
Light : 2
Lep : 1

I hear Sarge saying Berserkers got 80% of Aggy's drop ? => Is this a joke, drops are nearly equal between Ancients and Berserkers, all won them faily by dicing and fighting aggy.

I hear Shadow look at all your gear, all your godly rings =>... But guess what I never got a godly, I BOUGHT THEM ALL every single time more than 150k and swaping for other rings i got from the obelisks, I bought my trident 500k and a royal ring, I bought a brace from cally 600k, I got what I have by offering far more that what other players would offer !!!! I fought most aggy fights, meaning minimum 30 * 4 elixirs = 120 elixirs, countless pots ands resto.

What did I do to deserve so much hate ? I simply explain my point of view which is the most deserving players should be the one getting drops in priority as they are still so rare.

Is the door closed for ANY player to grind a bit of their time to get stronger and more useful for all ? => No.

If these recs were never imposed, many players would never have grind so much and this is a fact.

Now this is an open discussion and if most players refuse to level up recs... then they won't be leveled.

But my worry is that at a point players grinding the most will simply lock aggy (Boss Lock coming with V4) and simply refuse lower players to be part of dicing. Indeed V4 is coming within two months, and new cap level will be 180.

I can foresee the incoping gap even higher between a bunch of 180 and dozens of 140 all wanting some Aggy drops.

HOW MANY TIME I HAVE HEARD : "sorry your too low." So just asking 5 level more when you will have soon all kind of mobs ranging from 155 to 180... I don't think it is too much.

I would love to see at least hundred of players in Lugh 150 so they all get 5 more skill points and all do more damages. But this is apparently something most players don not share with me.

They simply see me as a greedy player who want to keep drops from him and his clan. What is the point to try to discuss if this is just a mean to hurt people ? I feel simply not anymore sharing my thought on this forum anymore.

I have not said any thoughts on this. Nor will i but just saying i havent got a brace yet. The one i sold kam was from halloween boss. Just saying.

shadow, i know how you feel, infact i do understand, but this is something you have to work out amongst everyone and not just thinking about the players who 'fought bravely in the old cava'. Sure it was difficult, but that's the past, you got new cave now and level your azz up in there... hell maybe can go to 160. But the way you put it is very brutual as toy said it sounds like your saying ''Give me the drops because i am better than you!'' Now both me and toy know your not saying that, you might just be fustrated by the lower levels getting the drops you desired? (I got shiiiit anyway just a ring once in my life lool)

You've spent the most plat.... this is something nearly everyone does but i'm sure not compared to what you spend, if you mean you've spent the most plat leveling wise and unnessary amounts of loads (1000000 idols or 10000 restos) then it makes no difference to the players who are leveling. But you have mentioned about spending 500-600k on drops, that was your own personal choice and offering, not that you were forced anyway, but thats just how your dicijg sytem came out.

About the level reqs... i don't believe it's hard to level from 120-140 at all, just grind your way with exclirs, most the level 120-125s i see are selling exclirs rather than using it. It is fustrating i know but we all do it and need YOU fit for thr fight, i remmeber when we use carry the lower levels who couldn't do anything because the adds will just obliterate them. Here's how i see it, if you can't do any damage to the wyvrens / mages then what make you think your doing any good on aggragoth?
I'll agree with sarge on the first one, druids are hard to level but not impossible, if you want to balance it out betwen all classes how about you start with equaling all level reqs. Healing 1000+ big woop, lukov healed that much at level 100..... level 100???? at level 100 i was still strachting mr eye corneas and getting happy over killing these fairy bosses and at level 100 you can do aggy???? when i heard that it shot my motivation to level right down... i was even considering being a druid, because if at level 100 you can do agg then what about future bosses when all classes are lets say 200 and a druid can be 140? If you want to balance it like i said start with every class being balacned. In my opinions that's just fuuucking bull.

thx thoro, the list i put is surely incomplete and maybe not accurate. My point is we have about 40 high level players in Lugh and less than 40 Aggy brace in Lugh. As Aggy spawn about every 5 days except when reset.

These 40 High levels who worked their asses, still did not get equiped yet, their are not doing a business and selling their Aggy Braces to lower levels, they are still waiting like you for one !

So asking lower levels to grind a little bit more to be able to join the queue is not so hard.

I understand Sam. But don't worry, if some player feel the need to tag on my back "greedy motherfffuker who push up rec to keep drops", that's ok.

Take Longcool, as soon as he match the recs he got an Aggy brace and I am happy about it. I am simply trying to push up players. As I demonstrated with my list, we are not making an Aggy's biz with drops, we don't even have enough for all our friends.

The door is not closed but we simply ask player to show they are willing to also make their effort and contribution.

But fact is I have a lot of items, that I mostly bought, I am a chieftain and was by default when toy was out to try to set the rules. (Even if people forgot like ak underlined, that I did not do it alone. Lightface for example gave me the link of a post from another server and I used it to ,post on the forum before even the first aggy kill)We tried and it worked fine and everything was peaceful.

Shad i would like to point out your trying to reward the higher levels 150+ but if you look at this already, who has most of the drops, 150+ i counted 17 people who are above 150 with aggy braces (some more than others) and only 23 brace drops, now how do you justify that you are trying to reward these people when they are obviously being rewarded, some might not get drops they want but they still get drops, how many people own tridents? how many of them are above 145? How many have books? How many bought from people who are 145+, you say these people deserve a reward but if you look at the bigger picture they are receiving drops more than most, i am yet to see more than one druid brace drop, and that brace went to wendell. I do not think it fair for everyone to put in the same amount of effort and come up with less. I try to be in fights where i can but due to time zones this is becoming harder and harder on me so i have even less chance to get drops, how do you suppose i fix this? Ask someone to roll for me each aggy? Thats unfair you say then same applies to restricting it to higher levels than it needs to be. After the update you'll have 150s running around all over the place but ill still be chugging away through my levels trying to reach 150 just to join a group ive always met the requirements while levels 150+ will own multiple braces and could be selling this throughout the world. I believe requirements should stay 140 but we should slowly increase support levels towards 140 to attempt to encourage our druids to level for their rewards then there wont be much annoyance about lower levels collecting drops over higher levels. Which i fail to see the problem when everyone i know of whos complaining all have some sort of drop. I say to you all give everyone a chance have some fun and relax, its just a game. No need to fight over drops, no need to get greedy over them either, just let the game flow and enjoy it while it lasts. One day we will all quit so just enjoy it.

Wow. I did not realize that disagreeing with someone was considered hateful. Wow. I agree with Kam. The point is not about the frickin drops. Who cares. There will be better drops after the update. No big deal. Again this is not hateful, I could care less if you, Shadow, have every frickin drop in the game. Good for you. Hateful?? The point of all this is the apparent waste of time we all spend talking about requirements. There is no need for this talk. Why do I say this? Because requirements change all the time. It's not about what level you are. It's who is on the good list and who is on the blacklist. No big deal. As stated earlier on this post or another thread, some high levels on, for instance Kam and I, and are passed over for Agg. Who fills the slots? Lower levels. No big deal, just do away with requirements and let the low levels in. Exceptions are already made for druids. Not sure why that class gets a pass. Yeah, heal over 1k, no big deal, cant do much of anything else. No hateful speech here Shadow. Im sorry that you take it that way when someone speaks up and ask questions. It's a sad day when questions about reasonae issues gets you attacked as a hater. I understand that serkers and ancients are the biggest clans. Congrats on that accomplishment. However, that doesn't give those clans license to run over everyone else Lugh. no hate speech here Shadow but I personally dont want to be attacked by you on these forums for raising questions about your statements. The ingame name calling is no big deal because its between us but is out for everyone in the forums. I suppose the name calling, hater, is a kind of intimidation. Not working here. I will continue to monitor your post about requirements and drops and provide my insightful, hahaha, opinion. Again no hate speech going on. Have a great day all.

Sarge i have nothing wrong with you or kam joining in these fights infact ive suggested you a few times and no one has told me no or yes so i sit there confused. I see where your coming from. I think the only way for you to stir things up is to create a clan/group of clans who are also able to take aggy down. This would cause some people to open their eyes and see that they arent everything. And sarge removing me as a friend simply because i am a serker doesnt seem very smart. Not all of us agree with these things, infact i have voiced my opinions against these recent suggestions, many others have agreed with me but have learnt not to voice their opinion. I say to you sarge dont judge a book by its cover or a clan by its leader. I dont know if you have problems in life or anything but realise you can create or fix problems here. But if you develop some competition for the so called 'elites' i would gladly welcome it. It would be entertaining. Look forward to another clan killing aggy without serkers or ancients for a change.