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Thoughts on how to equip players with dl faster

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:00 am
by Thoro
Ok apparently dicing isnt working the way it should. So lets just throw out some thoughts on this topic. My idea of equipping everyone faster. Use online ranking and just go down the list. Everyone just pass drops to the next person in line. Honestly if we want it faster only way to go. Just a idea on this lets here your thoughts and ideas.

Re: Thoughts on how to equip players with dl faster

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:41 am
by virulent
I kinda thought that was the original idea. It would be more efficient and cut out fake owing and dicing issues. I know the issue of who's active may come up. I was VERY until a week or so ago and I have been working ALOT and the last 2 nights I've been on only PHs have been up.

I don't know what Kapec needs.

Purples
I need 7 urns and 4 horns to finish helm and BP. All but 1 crown for weapon. I am finished with eggs.

Re: Thoughts on how to equip players with dl faster

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:48 am
by virulent
If it was to work this way and someone is only a couple items away from finishing, by all means finish your set.

Re: Thoughts on how to equip players with dl faster

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:32 pm
by Longcool
Random thought: What about a server-wide DKP system?

The logistics might be a nightmare, but it would address the concerns about player level and participation.

Re: Thoughts on how to equip players with dl faster

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:32 pm
by xyn
This is similar to a response i made in another thread, but i will say it again as it may be more appropriate here.

i have many issues with choosing people to outfit:

1. i much prefer to get drops from someone cause they want to give to me, not because they were forced.
2. what happens if i solo a ph4 and get a drop. if i get enough and someone sees me with gloves am i exiled forever. hardly seems fair
3. if i were lower level, why would i ever bother to go to a boss fight? there may be 15 people 'in front' of me

and how in the world would we ever make a list we can agree on. maybe mages and rangers could do it cause we are somewhat small. but the others? and even with rangers, there are about 6 high level rangers, but some dont show up to a ton of fights (but to some fights) but are really high level.

I would also like to point out that this system does have the intended effect of outfitting us fastER than the old system (frozen). Please don't confuse fastER and more efficiently, with FAST. I think things become way to boring if we are just forced to give up drops to a specified person. I dont want someone giving me a drop cause they have to, but because they want to. I want to give drops to the rangers i think are good player, or who i want to foster - which may not necessarily be the next person on the 'list'.

also, when would i get to collect horns/crowns for the offhand? after every ranger over 170 is fully armored?

I think it is a nightmare waiting to happen if we go this way. If you think there are posts and anger now...

The keys to a working system imo:
1. the rules have to be consistent and fair
2. people, for the most part, have to accept them and understand them
3. there shouldnt be a lot of room to cheat
4. People should have a reason to keep leveling, camping, and coming to boss fights
5. it has to be better than what we had

Our current rules basically satisfy these requirements. With the exception of the rule about full dl people dicing, which is under review.

my sense is not that we think the rules are bad, but it is just taking sooooo freaking long to collect drops - and to do so requires tons of really boring camping. so, high levels are left with the choice of boring grinding or boring camping. Both are seemingly nearly futile (lvling is very slow and expensive, and we can camp all day and just see the bolg boss drop a blue egg).

i really think making a list will cause far more problems than it solves. Please don't take away all my freewill :D

Re: Thoughts on how to equip players with dl faster

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:47 pm
by Thoro
So lets take a small vote on this.

So +1 if u r for all drops going togather and equipping down the online ranks list.

-1 if against this.


So its a +1 from me

Re: Thoughts on how to equip players with dl faster

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:04 pm
by Vulture
-1

Re: Thoughts on how to equip players with dl faster

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:05 pm
by Jaylon
+1

Re: Thoughts on how to equip players with dl faster

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:17 pm
by LordHell
I am not a high enough level by any means, but I don't think it should just go to the next highest person on the list but to the highest person who needs it and actually participated in the particular boss fight. That would be the most fair way to do it if you're going to go by levels. If they want a piece, they should be there to help out is all I'm saying.

Re: Thoughts on how to equip players with dl faster

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:36 pm
by castiglioni
So lets take a small vote on this.
How do these votes actually work?

It seems that most people who fight don't actually comes to the forums and post regularly.

Is there a sub-group of players that gets to vote and decide these things for the rest of us? I'm just curious...