Page 1 of 4

Mordris: Vote on level requirements and dicing rules

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:27 pm
by RogerRanger
There has been a great deal of discussion about the level requirements and dicing rules for Mordris. Three main issues arise in these discussions 1) level requirement to be included in the fight 2) dicing rules 3) when to include someone in the fight (at start, lock, etc). I have included some options for these three topics below for a vote. I know this is not an exhaustive list but it reflects ideas that emerged from previous discussions.

First Vote: Level Requirement for DPS classes
1) 180
2) 185
3) 190

Second Vote: Level Requirement for casters
1) 180
2) 185
3) 190

Third Vote: Dicing rules
1) Unrestricted. If you are included in the fight you are eligible to dice.
2) Must be within 2 levels of the level requirement for the item.
3) Must be at or above the level requirement for the item.
4) Only items with a level 190 requirement are restricted. Only Level 188 and above may dice for these items.

Fourth Vote: When to include someone in the fight and dicing.
1) Must be present at the beginning of the fight and grouped. Pulling the first Sentinel marks the beginning of the fight.
2) Must arrive before lock and be grouped
3) Must arrive before lock and announce



I vote: 1/1/1/1


*EDIT* I added the level 188 option as number 4 above. Hadn't thought of that one myself. See? Public discourse is good. ;)

Re: Mordris: Vote on level requirements and dicing rules

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:01 pm
by xyn
i think level requirements for all should be 180 - just to be consistent with everything else we do.

people should be there at the start of the battle - since that is the messiest part.

for dicing, i like the concept of everyone can dice for 185- items, but only people 188+ can dice for 190 items. This is because those items are very rare and it is much harder to get from 185-190 (by a significant margin) than any other 5 level gap because of the paucity of mobs. Therefore, a 180 getting a 190 item my not be using it for months. If OTM makes leveling to 190 easier by having a 185-190 section for quick leveling, then i would open it up like normal.

Re: Mordris: Vote on level requirements and dicing rules

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:24 pm
by virulent
+1 to Akbar

The exception I have is that all 180's will take time. We succeeded with 4 major groups. This time we are trying 5-6. Also, with a New Battle General. For right now, until we can consistently bring her down, we slowly increase the groups. Once it becomes regular to kill, we can invite everyone 180+ and expect that the plan has become common knowledge. Would also like to let different people have a go at being Battle General. Experience never hurts.

Re: Mordris: Vote on level requirements and dicing rules

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:35 pm
by Longcool
Thanks Rog for writing this post. I, too, had thought Virulent said he would do it.

Vote 1: I am divided on this. I can see arguments for both 1 and 2, so I abstain.
Vote 2: 1
Vote 3: 1 - I have given my rationale in another post and won't repeat it here.
Vote 4: 1

Re: Mordris: Vote on level requirements and dicing rules

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:51 pm
by virulent
I apologize for not posting it but i had overwhelming feedback which made me decide not to. I thought the options in '2.0' plan were both fair and logical. I can add the 188 req which is very reasonable.

Re: Mordris: Vote on level requirements and dicing rules

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:12 pm
by RogerRanger
I have to admit that I am also on the fence regarding level requirements to participate. I changed my vote to be more inclusive.

I am interpreting Akbar's and Virulent's votes as: 1/1/2/1

Re: Mordris: Vote on level requirements and dicing rules

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:19 pm
by xyn
well, my vote on dicing is that it is level 180 to dice EXCEPT for 190 drops, in which it is 188. I explained my rationale elsewhere, but when leveling to 190 becomes routine (i.e. better leveling mobs), then i will change my vote to 180 for all. but for now, level 190 (and drops) are kinda special, and take extra work, time, luck, and money to achieve - so i have no issue treating the 190 drops a little differently.

not sure that helps your tally :)

1/1/1.5/1 hehe

Re: Mordris: Vote on level requirements and dicing rules

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:24 pm
by RogerRanger
I apologize for not posting it but i had overwhelming feedback which made me decide not to. I thought the options in '2.0' plan were both fair and logical. I can add the 188 req which is very reasonable.
I recommend holding off on drawing conclusions since only 4 people have voted at this point. We have good consensus so far on 3 aspects but the level 188 requirement is currently a split vote. Give the players a couple of days to vote and then we will have a better idea of what the server wants to do.

Re: Mordris: Vote on level requirements and dicing rules

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:40 pm
by madmac
2-1-I like ak's idea of 2 188 - 1

Re: Mordris: Vote on level requirements and dicing rules

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:48 pm
by SmartOne96
I also abstain from the first vote. I also agree with ak. 180s getting a 185 drop is fine, but 188+ roll for 190 drops.
(abstain)/1/(ak's 1.5)/1