Eragon is correct. We are pissed because Jah started it. And because they started it, after months of FFA'ing on both DL and DKP bosses, with no dirty play involved, everything we do against them is from this point on is ABSOLUTELY JUSTIFIED.It is their choice whether they want the pain to stop or not.
Griefing our subsequent Necro attempt confirmed our justification. Have they made any efforts to show they're sorry for what they did? Nope. They've only made it worse by having an immature leader that wouldn't properly talk things out with our leader, and a clan that likes to **** talk.
1. We actually would like the pain to stop lol, mostly for our recruit's sake, because they are unaware why this whole thing is going on, all they know is that Ret/Transc is the big bad guy who is acting like a bully to them, and I am willing to bet that lower lvled Transc members feel the same. We have tried the occasional peace talk but it doesn't get anywhere. I realize most Ret do not respect Bungle, but would Ret leadership consider peace talks with another Jah leader? I would be happy to try to get somewhere if Ret leadership is.
2. Honestly, I think many Jah didn't want to grief the second necro attempt, they just felt that they had to do something to release all the pent up anger that was caused by Ret resetting bosses in the time between the attempts. And no, they aren't really sorry, because they feel that Ret has gone way overboard in inflicting retribution.
There was an agreement made post Necro that we would stop ksing on lix and in exchange, they leave MORD alone. Bungle, Jah's leader, broke this agreement. I'm personally not interested in any more peace talks with the child anymore. We need someone else who isn't a complete moron.
I recall that agreement, and I think the reason behind breaking it is simply that Jah members were really upset with the amount of ksing/killing/reseting that occured between the necro attempts.
Some of our people grow a bit of sympathy over the passing days. And then a select few Jah members piss all over said sympathy and reminds us why we hate them. i.e. pulling spider mobs to us while we kill 180 daily.
The "Jah started it" thing, their retaliation, and their breaking of the post Necro peace agreement, shows how much Jah thinks they can take on Ret in a war. Bring it on *****.
My opinion is that the reason Jah members do that is mostly because that is one of the best ways to take out their anger on Ret (aside from mord).
Think back to when Jah members messed with your necro attempt the first (or second) time. The feeling that the other clan would do something so abhorrent and spiteful only to prevent the first clan from progressing in the game. Now apply that feeling to Jah members when you reset Snorri on us. The main difference being that you guys usually reset snorri on us at least once a day, as opposed to the two times Jah messed with necro in what, a month and a half?
Its like a cycle, Ret pushes Jah, then Jah pushes back in order to keep standing. Ideally both clans would stop pushing and coexist...but that probably won't happen due to Ret not wanting to share top position in Sulis (which actually doesn't make sense to me...I mean the game is exactly that, a game, the goal of which is to 1. Have fun, 2. Progress through the game. Neither of which is really happening due to the war, aside from the people who get thrills from ruining the fun of others).
Anyways, I really want there to be peace in Sulis.