Celtic Heroes

Sorry if my previous post was too confrontational, I apologize it was late at night I saw a lot of negativity and felt the need to respond. But it was not directed at you personally.

The boss will be changed. It is entirely possible that certain strategies that you develop will become moot, and therefore can be considered a waste of time and effort. When the boss is finalized, you will probably also have competition.

We went into this fight knowing that even if we were able to defeat him, that there would most likely not be any drop. BadaBing has led the way on our server, and we thrive on challenging ourselves. We push against the boundaries so that we know what we can accomplish. Hrungnir will definitely be changed, and that is okay because we gave him our best shot. Our first attempt was pretty brutal, but we still got him to 30%. Our second attempt was much better organized and we spent maybe half the plat items we did on the first attempt.

Regardless, the other important aspect of this is akin to "lost opportunity risk" in economics. How many other bosses were Ukosci (spelling?) able to take in the 4 or 5 hours you spent attacking Hrung? This is a major consideration on my clan's plate, as the next best clan is capable of taking any boss if left to their own devices. We would never give them 2 hours of freedom to take everything else that spawns.

Our second attempt lasted 1 hour and 16 minutes. I know this because I recorded a video of our attempt, and passed it on to Wulver so that the OTM team can see our experience and improve this boss for everyone. This is another reason why I do not think that our attempt was a waste of time. As for bosses, we killed Snoori's place holder right before leaving for Hrungnir, so we had it timed so that we would not miss a Snoori or a Sreng spawn. We may have missed priest or king, but it was an acceptable risk at the time.

just because they are top notch on THEIR server dosent mean they would be top notch on our server so yea....

Comparing the current state of clans and saying one is better than the other is a fallacy. There is just no way to compare clans across servers. Every server is different and have their own culture. For one thing, the reason why we don't have a lot of competition in our server is because no clan could compete with us from the very start. We have been dominating our server since Dec. 2011. Many clans have tried, and failed. Who knows, if we were on the same server, your clan (or perhaps my clan) would probably have disbanded or lost members to the other clan before Update 3 even came out.

Our first attempt was pretty brutal, but we still got him to 30%. Our second attempt was much better organized and we spent maybe half the plat items we did on the first attempt.

Well hats off to your clan for trying the "impossible". I just don't see the value in brainstorming how to kill him in his current state when we know he is going to be toned down massively. Also, even if you killed him and you spent $1000 in plat items, I still wouldn't consider it a victory, like I mentioned, anyone can kill a boss with unlimited lives who is prepared to pay for it.

I was not trying to compare clans across servers
I was trying to say that just because a clan on one server is considered the best for that server dosent mean thry are the best on another server

I mean like my clan may be considered top notch on my server because the clansnunder us are not very goood
What makes you the best can vary depeneding on server

Well hats off to your clan for trying the "impossible". I just don't see the value in brainstorming how to kill him in his current state when we know he is going to be toned down massively. Also, even if you killed him and you spent $1000 in plat items, I still wouldn't consider it a victory, like I mentioned, anyone can kill a boss with unlimited lives who is prepared to pay for it.

And one of the reasons he will be toned down is due to our efforts in trying to kill him. If this is your attempt at saying thank you, then you're welcome

Well I'm not going to re-read the thread to take note of clans and players, but from memory there are people from Avalon and Infection questioning the judgement of trying this boss. Both these clans are top notch on their servers.

Regardless, the other important aspect of this is akin to "lost opportunity risk" in economics. How many other bosses were Ukosci (spelling?) able to take in the 4 or 5 hours you spent attacking Hrung? This is a major consideration on my clan's plate, as the next best clan is capable of taking any boss if left to their own devices. We would never give them 2 hours of freedom to take everything else that spawns.

What do you mean by "top notch" because It surely doesn't mean the best...
Oh and you mentioned us taking down other bosses? Well... This is off-topic but you do realize that we have more dragon than you (if added up), and we take down almost %95 of all placeholders and 5-6* during the U.S and early Aussie time. Not sure where you get "best clan" from because we are the ones owning and patrolling bosses, not to mention full dragon on all of our classes when you guys have but one. Before you respond with "we kit our whole clan" yes. We do to. All of our mages have gloves+ just like you guys... And no. I didnt say we were stronger did I? Only small minded people would suggest that a clan was stronger than another.
Oh? Did I hear something? "You have more aggy drops?"
...
Great. Now I have bracelet and ring space to fill with lux so I can actually use my skills.
I aplogize to op for going off topic but I just needed to take care of some big-mouths on these forums.

their doin this for business and $
there using reverse physcology...they tell u to hold off on it even thou they know that we players
are too curious and ofc we would try it out....were just giving them more $ thats what were basically
doing.... :|

What I find hilarious is that anyone takes the time to sit down and spend 2 hours and 20 min playing a hand held game stairing at a small screen. Its a mobile game the full purpose of mobile games is to play on the go. Seeing as the game is being moved to andriod and there are simulators for the computer we will be a computer game soon.

But I do congratulate you on your efforts, time spent, and knowledge gained. It is a great feat hopefully you get the kill when its fixed.

"A victory at all costs is not a victory."

Ever heard of the American Civil War? Yeah sorry bud but a victory at all costs is still a victory.
Best American general of all time clearly established that.

Yawn dean.

We all know who runs herne. There is no debate. Yes we got first full set if dragon armor, and firsf dragon weApon. We have 6 active mages u have what 2? So we spread our drops around unlike u guys, as u already lost members.

Im pretty sure u guys can only kill bosses after studying us. Its fine tho, we are now used to being copied.

U guys may be active during the days, because half of you are home for summer from elementary school.

Its cute tho that u think u are in par with us.

Well I'm not going to re-read the thread to take note of clans and players, but from memory there are people from Avalon and Infection questioning the judgement of trying this boss. Both these clans are top notch on their servers.

Regardless, the other important aspect of this is akin to "lost opportunity risk" in economics. How many other bosses were Ukosci (spelling?) able to take in the 4 or 5 hours you spent attacking Hrung? This is a major consideration on my clan's plate, as the next best clan is capable of taking any boss if left to their own devices. We would never give them 2 hours of freedom to take everything else that spawns.

What do you mean by "top notch" because It surely doesn't mean the best...
Oh and you mentioned us taking down other bosses? Well... This is off-topic but you do realize that we have more dragon than you (if added up), and we take down almost %95 of all placeholders and 5-6* during the U.S and early Aussie time. Not sure where you get "best clan" from because we are the ones owning and patrolling bosses, not to mention full dragon on all of our classes when you guys have but one. Before you respond with "we kit our whole clan" yes. We do to. All of our mages have gloves+ just like you guys... And no. I didnt say we were stronger did I? Only small minded people would suggest that a clan was stronger than another.
Oh? Did I hear something? "You have more aggy drops?"
...
Great. Now I have bracelet and ring space to fill with lux so I can actually use my skills.
I aplogize to op for going off topic but I just needed to take care of some big-mouths on these forums.

@Dean
Top notch doesnt mean number one.... It means one of the best. I think maybe he didnt list ypur clan, because he wasnt referrign to comments mady by your members.

If you know dersu at all, you will know he is not an arrogant person. Nor does he throw out insults willy nilly .

I believe you are reading a lot more into his statement than intended.

As for the original topic...
Congrats on what you learned! I hope your experience helps the dev team reach some conclusions about what needs tweaking. I cannot wait to kill Hrungnir and Mordris!

Your time was only wasted if *you* think so. :)