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Re: Future for rangers

#32
Do you get kills over rogues or even rondel rogues with that build?

Also I find it hard to believe that one can even hit 85%+ in this game seeing the formula for % hits is Attack/Attack + Defense and egbosses have like 4k+ Defense . This is for endgame bossing and 6* edl/dls not lixing btw
I get kills over some rogues in my clan. 95% was just an estimate. I honestly have no clue how often i hit on bosses. Its too hard to see numbers lol and too lazy to test it solo. From what I've seen though, I dont miss very often.
Edit* 75-80% may be a fairer estimate lol
Awesome!! That is one sick build tbh.
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Re: Future for rangers

#33
One day we all will hear a sonic boom and it will be the sound of strength based Rangers pulling their heads out of their rear ends. The whole concept of putting every stat point into strength and completely ignoring your class skills is beyond ridiculous. Yeah you get high auto damage, but nothing else. Any ranger who doesn't stack dex to increase the power of a dex based skill has no reason to complain about it. If you build your ranger to fail it will. That should be common sense. The improvements coming to skills and the evasion improvements will help us enormously "IF" you go the dex route. If not, then all you strength folks are going to suffer even more than you do now. You will have nobody to blame but yourselves, but I'm sure that won't stop all prebuescent whining and crying on the forums about how terrible your Rangers are.
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Re: Future for rangers

#35
One day we all will hear a sonic boom and it will be the sound of strength based Rangers pulling their heads out of their rear ends. The whole concept of putting every stat point into strength and completely ignoring your class skills is beyond ridiculous. Yeah you get high auto damage, but nothing else. Any ranger who doesn't stack dex to increase the power of a dex based skill has no reason to complain about it. If you build your ranger to fail it will. That should be common sense. The improvements coming to skills and the evasion improvements will help us enormously "IF" you go the dex route. If not, then all you strength folks are going to suffer even more than you do now. You will have nobody to blame but yourselves, but I'm sure that won't stop all prebuescent whining and crying on the forums about how terrible your Rangers are.
This made me laugh. I don't know if you have a high level ranger but I'm going to assume you don't based on your response. Let me enlighten you what happens when you stack dex as a ranger.

For fun I went 1.5k dex. I maxed sharp shot, long shot, and barbed shot. Here's what I found

My autos sucked. But my skills dmg weren't much higher than my autos when I was full str except now I had energy issues. With maxed str, rapid shot, and dbl shot and a reduced cast time dbl shot charm I did far more dmg with little energy usage than being full dex and skills build.

This would be like a rogue going full dex and his/her shadow strike hitting for around 1k.

So here is the gripe, maxing dex does little to increase the dex based skills damage except they're all dex based skills.

I guess you're assuming those of us that have high level rangers haven't tried a high dex skill build?
Zyz 220 Druid
Noah Fences 220 Rogue

Re: Future for rangers

#36
One day we all will hear a sonic boom and it will be the sound of strength based Rangers pulling their heads out of their rear ends. The whole concept of putting every stat point into strength and completely ignoring your class skills is beyond ridiculous. Yeah you get high auto damage, but nothing else. Any ranger who doesn't stack dex to increase the power of a dex based skill has no reason to complain about it. If you build your ranger to fail it will. That should be common sense. The improvements coming to skills and the evasion improvements will help us enormously "IF" you go the dex route. If not, then all you strength folks are going to suffer even more than you do now. You will have nobody to blame but yourselves, but I'm sure that won't stop all prebuescent whining and crying on the forums about how terrible your Rangers are.
This made me laugh. I don't know if you have a high level ranger but I'm going to assume you don't based on your response. Let me enlighten you what happens when you stack dex as a ranger.

For fun I went 1.5k dex. I maxed sharp shot, long shot, and barbed shot. Here's what I found

My autos sucked. But my skills dmg weren't much higher than my autos when I was full str except now I had energy issues. With maxed str, rapid shot, and dbl shot and a reduced cast time dbl shot charm I did far more dmg with little energy usage than being full dex and skills build.

This would be like a rogue going full dex and his/her shadow strike hitting for around 1k.

So here is the gripe, maxing dex does little to increase the dex based skills damage except they're all dex based skills.

I guess you're assuming those of us that have high level rangers haven't tried a high dex skill build?
My ranger friend went full dex and managed to still get kills on stuff, so it's not so bad you just need correct gearing
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Re: Future for rangers

#37
I guess full strength takes a lot of the thought and work out of a ranger if that's how people want to play. Sort of like hitting the easy button, except your defense, attack, light heal, etc all majorly suck. That severely gimps you on bosses and such. If all your doing is hitting on normal mobs full strength may be ok, but definitely not optimal. Why play a half ass ranger when you can actually be usefull?
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Re: Future for rangers

#38
^^ My last concern is whether I get a kill or not. Personally I think it's silly caring who gets a kill on a boss. But some people really like seeing their toon name on a boss kill so more power to them.

My concern is doing the most damage to lvling mobs to lvl faster.
Zyz 220 Druid
Noah Fences 220 Rogue

Re: Future for rangers

#39
I guess full strength takes a lot of the thought and work out of a ranger if that's how people want to play. Sort of like hitting the easy button, except your defense, attack, light heal, etc all majorly suck. That severely gimps you on bosses and such. If all your doing is hitting on normal mobs full strength may be ok, but definitely not optimal. Why play a half ass ranger when you can actually be usefull?
You're kidding, right? Takes the thought and work out of playing the ranger? How is that? You're throwing points into stats and skills. It's not rocket science. And it's video game, there isn't any work involved.

If a person enjoys a certain play style over another, it's not called half assed, it's called personal preference. I find it interesting that there are a plethora of end game rangers that have tried dex and certain skills and then str and the skills that benefit an auto build and have gone with the auto build but yet they're wrong and you're right.

Attack ability isn't determined by dex alone as many rangers use dmg+attack gear. My ranger has 5k attack with low dex and then I pop a heroic attack lix. If I need more attack, I equip my hrung attack braces. Defense is up to the player how much they think they need.

I have a 1.2k light heal with low dex. No it's not topping the charts but does just fine. My main is a druid and that's what he's used for.

Overall your post is pretty insulting. It's a game. Let people play how they want without needing to insult them. There are many of us that have tried the dex route and found it less effective than str route. My ranger spends more time leveling than bossing and I'd rather stick with a build that allows for faster leveling and less lix usage
Zyz 220 Druid
Noah Fences 220 Rogue

Re: Future for rangers

#40
One day we all will hear a sonic boom and it will be the sound of strength based Rangers pulling their heads out of their rear ends. The whole concept of putting every stat point into strength and completely ignoring your class skills is beyond ridiculous. Yeah you get high auto damage, but nothing else. Any ranger who doesn't stack dex to increase the power of a dex based skill has no reason to complain about it. If you build your ranger to fail it will. That should be common sense. The improvements coming to skills and the evasion improvements will help us enormously "IF" you go the dex route. If not, then all you strength folks are going to suffer even more than you do now. You will have nobody to blame but yourselves, but I'm sure that won't stop all prebuescent whining and crying on the forums about how terrible your Rangers are.
Wow, you're right! It's "beyond ridiculous" that none of us high end rangers have ever tried a dex build before! All this time we could have had weak skills AND weak autos! It sure is a good thing you came here to tell us how doing less overall damage and wasting more lixes to level will get us the lower evasions we so desperately need!

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