Celtic Heroes

i changed my mind! i have one and want them back, however they should be about 200k as their necessity is on par with heroic rejuv imo, also means the people who bought lots with the intent of selling them high priced dont get ripped off as they can still sell them 150-175k

I have a camo charm and think they should come back. New players to the game won't have much of a chance of getting them and the otherworld just isn't fun without them. I think they could use with a price increase from old shop price.

By the time new players get to the otherworld Rangers will be rocking Conceal the Full Group Camo and the like. I think part of the frustration is the lack of new spells fully entering the game, sooner than later Conceal will make a ranger heavily sought after to cloak their group on long journeys into the dragon or even into the new Otherworld Dungeon. I think we are all feeling the void now because there actually is a void of these skills not being fully distributed yet

Everyone having a camo charm makes this skill useless, similar to everyone having no rez idol Cooldowns makes the Rez spell lose it's flavor slightly(it's still free but it's not as necessary). It's new skills offsetting old practices, and the shift of the old to accommodate the new.

Admin replied to everyone multiple times when the info came out that camo charms were going away. And that info was released over 3 weeks before the Update. And then rereleased by about 5 different people coming to forums and asking about the rumours they heard about camo charms etc. The information was heavily distributed prior to the removal.

The reason for removal was it was Over-Powered. The actually changed the code of the game so that some mob's could see thru a camo charm and 6 star bosses could as well. Which is why Deadroot can see thru your camo-charm.

A number of players grabbed a number of camo charms so they could sell them for tons now, and that's just good sense. But as time passes and it does, camo charms will slowly vanish off the servers from people stopping their play or slowing it, or leaving game all together and this blip of the camo charm "have's vs have-nots" will just be a tiny footnote. The game is much easier with a camo charm, and much harder without one. It was designed to be much harder for everyone, but purely removing these charms completely woulda caused incredible furor, and it was deemed this route was better.

At the end of the day this all seems like a cause of the "coulda, woulda, shoulda's". You had yer chance to grab yer charm. You didn't. Sucks for you. Get over it. It's on you, not on the company that gave you 3 weeks of freaking notice.

- Tea, we're in the same clan, we agree on a lot but you're perspective is from someone who was, "In the loop." I actually check the boards fairly regularly, I had clan mates in Beta, including you, I'm not a complete idiot (contrary to popular belief) and yet somehow even I missed the importance of purchasing a camo charm prior to the update. The only reason I have one now is due to an alert clan mate. So the notion that everyone was sufficiently notified is flawed and the current feedback on this thread is a clear indication that not everyone was sufficiently notified. If they had been notified properly, there wouldn't be such a backlash now.

- Regarding the notion that the camo charm is overpowered, again I reject that. I run through OW and barely make it through the gauntlet of eyes almost every time and a simple solution to weakening it even further is to take one "TYPE" of mob from each "FAMILY" of mobs and make them be able to see through camo. I contend that the camo charm is already weak enough but a simple solution to this whole matter would seem to be, make the camo charm slightly weaker and bring it back. Make the merchants buy back any unwanted charms at full price and call it a day. The only ones unhappy with this solution, I feel, would be succumbing to their own selfish desires.

By the time new players get to the otherworld Rangers will be rocking Conceal the Full Group Camo and the like. I think part of the frustration is the lack of new spells fully entering the game, sooner than later Conceal will make a ranger heavily sought after to cloak their group on long journeys into the dragon or even into the new Otherworld Dungeon. I think we are all feeling the void now because there actually is a void of these skills not being fully distributed yet.

- Regarding group camo for Rangers... Forget it, no Ranger worth a crap, is going to want to spend 25 skill points for this. Just not going to happen.

I have a camo charm and think they should come back. New players to the game won't have much of a chance of getting them and the otherworld just isn't fun without them. I think they could use with a price increase from old shop price.

By the time new players get to the otherworld Rangers will be rocking Conceal the Full Group Camo and the like. I think part of the frustration is the lack of new spells fully entering the game, sooner than later Conceal will make a ranger heavily sought after to cloak their group on long journeys into the dragon or even into the new Otherworld Dungeon. I think we are all feeling the void now because there actually is a void of these skills not being fully distributed yet

Everyone having a camo charm makes this skill useless, similar to everyone having no rez idol Cooldowns makes the Rez spell lose it's flavor slightly(it's still free but it's not as necessary). It's new skills offsetting old practices, and the shift of the old to accommodate the new.

I agree completely, but they should all be removed and I just don't see it happening. The boss fights are a joke with ppl lying dead on the ground so they can finish quest and not draw aggro. Druid Resurrection is a total joke with a 2 min cool down. I say remove the resurrection spell and give the Druid the ability to teleport a single character to the group.

Adding on to rikitt:

And did Anyone forget df? Lol they won't ever "disappear" unless admin gets rid himself. Camo charm is a NECCESSITY if u wanna lvl solo and don't have money to buy pots. It's also not fair some ppl can get to bosses(no matter what lvl) and others can't.

Lol?
Camouflage charm worth 100k, why no money to buy pots?!

Sorry but a pot costs 30 gold or free, you can get one with Stonevale bosses.

You won't die without a camouflage charm.

Idk what world ur in! But I wanna come if pots that cheap!!! Resto pots r 250 each in arawn. And don't drop from Sv. So u get 4 for 1k, that last 1-2 mobs.

Back to my point, the reason camo charm is great, u can get to all bosses in ow. I'm a ranger, all mobs have bigger range then me. With camo charm, I have a lil more of range where I can now bolas and kill. Lastly, no adds!!! So those r reason they are needed to do well In ow.

Thankyou! What ranger would want to give up all of the other cool new skills for a camo or conceal skill?

Zumu, when I walk up to an eye without a camo I usually get attacked when about 100 ft from it. But with a camo I usually get attacked 20-30 ft from it.

Druid resurrection..... Oh wow! 500+ energy just to revive someone barely over level 100 and bring them back with 1/50 of their health. Ok who the hell decided this? Because in a crowded place like the otherworld I could revive them and then they could die again instantly just by beeing seen. I barely get any of enough time to heal them high enough before they are killed off again. And even then I still have to wait forever for a cooldown.

Druid resurrection..... Oh wow! 500+ energy just to revive someone barely over level 100 and bring them back with 1/50 of their health. Ok who the hell decided this? Because in a crowded place like the otherworld I could revive them and then they could die again instantly just by beeing seen. I barely get any of enough time to heal them high enough before they are killed off again. And even then I still have to wait forever for a cooldown.

I can see why the long cooldown eas implamented, but atleast heal more. A set amount would be horrible.

Here is why:
A tank that trades all dps for health revived with 400hp
A rogue that that has a full DPS build revived with 400/600hp

A percentage of health allows the player to make better use of that health. Do you get what i'm saying?
Maybe instead of raising the level cap witht the spell per point, It should raise the percentage healed when revived (5% at 1; 20% at 25; 38% at 50)

Kind of off topic but important to mention since you braught up the subject.

This thread makes me want to quit the game. Let's see if we can come up with a solution to satsify both sides so we can stop the moaning and groaning.

1. Nerf Golden Ones to 50%.

2. Bring back ONLY Silver Camos at a raised price of 200k.

There. Now shut the hell up and play the game.

Camo & Conceal not useless. Everyone just has a power ass mentality where they deem support skills useless as hell. Probably why there's a lack of druids.

^^^Someone getting a lil angry... ^^^

If ur tired of this subject, top reading and don't reply. That's only help we can give.

No because I'm not going to roll over for a buncha new players to ruin gameplay. Yeah I'm fairly new, 9-10 months but older then most players.