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Stop being baby's about PvP

#1
'If you didint use energy shield you wouldn't last a second"
"if you didint use bolas I could beat you" etc etc....

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Well it doesn't take Detective Sherlock to figure that one out.


It's a skill, it's in the game, deal with it.

I hate seeing stupid PvP fights over this, if you tell a Mage not to use energy shield or tell a ranger not to use bolas, you might as well tell a warrior to wear cloth armor and a Rogue to not use daggers.


So if something is in the game, and you feel it makes PvP unfair, talk about it on the forums, not cry and whine in game about how you "would win" if something were different.

Re: Stop being baby's about PvP

#2
Hahah nice post, especially the pic.

btw, I do think bolas is unfair unless someone knows how to beat it.

I don't think energy shield is unfair. Even with energy shield most mages have under 1400 health. Warriors, if they are built like a warrior should be, should have over 1500 health at the same level.

That would be a good comeback; "Thanks Sherlock" or "You must be a regular Sherlock Holmes"
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Re: Stop being baby's about PvP

#3
btw, I do think bolas is unfair unless someone knows how to beat it.
Well, you can even beat this in some cases, what I do before countdown that initiates duel is buff (poison wep/fast reflexes for rouges, cloak of fire for mages etc.) and then cast your highest damage skill (I refer to these as 'nukers' as they do amazing amounts of damage maxed) giant swing, fireball, sneaky, etc. theres about a 70/75% chance that this will actually hit - the reasons that would prevent this are evasion, and that the ranger might actually be smart enough to run away once the duel has started and cast bolas...the only reason I talk about them not running in the first place (as afterwards it seems the logical thing to do) is basing it on the amount of times I have been able to cast sneaky and gwt done a massive amoiunt of damage.

The next bit is the reason that you need plenty of vit - if you do, then bolas will run out before you die and you can quickly run to your target and attack (quickly) and kill them. The thing that really unbalances the ranger class is light heal!
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Re: Stop being baby's about PvP

#4
I laugh when people tell me not to use energy shield. Especially warriors. I like to tell them "Okay, but only if you don't use armor or a shield."

Bolas sin't so bad for mages. If a ranger is in range of my attack when I use a skill, there's no escaping it and I usually win regardless of bolas. Although often I've already hit them with ice shards and started using firebolt just as I've been hit with bolas, so it makes no difference really.

Warriors have the biggest disadvantage against rangers, so it's really a matter of HP for them.
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Re: Stop being baby's about PvP

#5
Well the rangers I've fought have run as soon as the duel initiated.

The truth is they can shoot arrows much farther than mages can cast spells.

So the ranger runs before the duel starts, when the duel starts he bolases, then you can never get in range of them, but they shoot you all day long until they break the e shield and you die.

Also they can recast bolas before the first one ends.
Last edited by mdimarco on Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
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Re: Stop being baby's about PvP

#6
I laugh when people tell me not to use energy shield. Especially warriors. I like to tell them "Okay, but only if you don't use armor or a shield."

Bolas sin't so bad for mages. If a ranger is in range of my attack when I use a skill, there's no escaping it and I usually win regardless of bolas. Although often I've already hit them with ice shards and started using firebolt just as I've been hit with bolas, so it makes no difference really.

Warriors have the biggest disadvantage against rangers, so it's really a matter of HP for them.

Even if they didn't use armor and the shield it still wouldn't be fair for the mage without e-shield. Tell them use a book of alteration and only put 50 points in vitality. THEN it would be fair against a mage with no e-shield.
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Why play a class with no auto attack?
Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
Why play a caster?

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Re: Stop being baby's about PvP

#7
Well the rangers I've fought have run as soon as the duel initiated.

The truth is they can shoot arrows much farther than mages can cast spells.

So the ranger runs before the duel starts, when the duel starts he bolases, then you can never get in range of them, but they shoot you all day long until they break the e shield and you die.

Also they can recast bolas before the first one ends as far as I know

I think to make rangers fair in a duel, Bolas should be nerfed in pvp so that their is at least a 10 second gap (2 firebolt cooldowns) between when bolas ends to when it can be recast. Maybe do the same for e-shield, even though it hurts to say it ;).
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Why play a class where skills cost more than other classes for same damage?
Why play a class with no auto attack?
Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
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Re: Stop being baby's about PvP

#8
Even without bolas nerfed. Once evasion skills are brought up to level. Rangers won't be guaranteed a successful cast. Then they're in trouble. :-)

As for Eshield, I have to agree with the above posts. Most mages factor in Eshirld as part of their total health, some even leave their Vit at 10 to have high dps for leveling.
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Re: Stop being baby's about PvP

#10
I laugh when people tell me not to use energy shield. Especially warriors. I like to tell them "Okay, but only if you don't use armor or a shield."

Bolas sin't so bad for mages. If a ranger is in range of my attack when I use a skill, there's no escaping it and I usually win regardless of bolas. Although often I've already hit them with ice shards and started using firebolt just as I've been hit with bolas, so it makes no difference really.

Warriors have the biggest disadvantage against rangers, so it's really a matter of HP for them.

Even if they didn't use armor and the shield it still wouldn't be fair for the mage without e-shield. Tell them use a book of alteration and only put 50 points in vitality. THEN it would be fair against a mage with no e-shield.

Oh yes, I just stand there while they run away too -_-
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