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Re: Fix the broken warrior no all warrior want to be tanks

#41
Fromen,
I do not think I can intelligently engage with you any longer... I mean quoting me without adding anything of your own...

And no, radiant armor does not add any damage advantages for a spell caster, so I am going to have to more outwardly disagree with your claim.

Radiant does have potential bonus to a caster. The elemental damage from radiant is added to wand damage. Many mages use an elemental golden blade for this reason.

But a group support only druid, mabye not, although the defense would help a lot.
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Why play a class with no auto attack?
Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
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Re: Fix the broken warrior no all warrior want to be tanks

#42
Caliban: The idea that you could sue seems a little silly to me. I don't think you have a case. You don't own your toon. You don't own anything except your play experience and memories. What you are actually investing money in is that play experience and those memories. That's it. OTM could shut down the game completely tomorrow, or turn us all into pink bunnies and Hello Kitty animations and your only recourse if you did not like these changes would be to find a new game to play. (OTM, please do not turn us in to pink bunnies and Hello Kitty animations.)
Not entirely true. You can take the case up with apple.

You do understad how it works must of big mmo they charge you directly you so tou applied. You are in the contract of ToU you no chance in court.
in this case apple works a bit diferent thats why is so popular if you Don't break the term of use of otm apple will help. Must developers choice not to update certain version of games because u can still downloaded any paid Every time update app. So they make obsolete every ios updated . You can alleg the all your purcharse were lost because a change in the game system so you want refund if they reaplied negative you still have the choice to take arbitration and they will settle
Before this go anywhere but this only applied to apple. Not to otm. But if the game cease to exist on the itunes catalog you cant do nothing.
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Re: Fix the broken warrior no all warrior want to be tanks

#43
Fromen,
I do not think I can intelligently engage with you any longer... I mean quoting me without adding anything of your own...

And no, radiant armor does not add any damage advantages for a spell caster, so I am going to have to more outwardly disagree with your claim.

Radiant does have potential bonus to a caster. The elemental damage from radiant is added to wand damage. Many mages use an elemental golden blade for this reason.

But a group support only druid, mabye not, although the defense would help a lot.
Point taken. I will be sticking to items which more directly boost the effectiveness of my heals and buffs, but thats just me.

Back to Fromen, it would seem here that we are all on the same page. The developers have put out some incredible armor, I would argue it is not ideal for froup support druids, but that might be the only exception, anyone who deals damage or takes hits will like Radiant.
Fromen you are saying that with these powerful new items other classes can assume more tank-oriented roles and dish out better damage than you. Maybe so... But they will still not be able to be as good at taking as you assuming you are also in this gear. Maybe that doesnt matter on every creature because your defense would be overkill, especially with good druid heals and buffs, but this game is dynamic, there will always be harder things to fight. Someday our friends may need you to put on that radiant, go full tank, and hold down the next big boss! We all need to understand that different classes will be better in certain situations, it may feel like nerfing, but only for a while when that new boss is popular. Take this from a true observer, a non-damage dealing druid there to heal in every fight. I watch characters excel and underwhelm in different scenarios, but a bit of overkill tanking is always alright with me. My advice, focus on being the best tank you can be and dont worry about whether you can out dps the dps classes, they will never out-tank you...
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Re: Fix the broken warrior no all warrior want to be tanks

#45
Fromen,

You seem to have gone from a conversation about changes to warriors to a conversation about refunds.

First the conversation about warriors, which is really a conversation about classes.

In my experience so far, the warrior, as it is, is the most balanced class in the game. It is not the most flexible. I think mages are probably the most flexible. Druids can spec as healers, general support or dps. A pure heal Druid is much more efficient in terms of effect you get for points spent... If you just want dps then other classes a better. You may habe fun playing a dps Druid and rock that build, but in terms of points spent for dps you will never match other classes if they have specialized their build for dps. Warriors are like this too. Rogues can build to tank. In terms of effect for points spent, they are much more effective as dps.

You can specialize or generalize a warrior in several different ways, all of which are viable and all of which involve making trade offs.

So far the only actual argument you have made is that you do not like what you percieve to be the changes in the game. Ok. Find another way to play. Find another game. It seems to me that your difficulty with this is that you do not want to lose the money you have already spent. It is spent. It is gone. You seem to think that you were spending money on some tangible 'thing'. You were not. There is no 'thing' involved.

You express some regret over having spent that money on a game that changed in a way you do not like. You seem to think that having soent this money entitles you to something beyond the gaming experience you have aleady had. This leads us to the refund conversation.

I have a very different experience with Apple. Please review the user agreement for ITunes. You will discover that all purchases, including IAPs are considered final. That is, the policy is one of no refunds for anything. They sometimes break this policy, but it is arbitrary. They do not even apply the exceptions the same way in all cases. That is, two people may be in the exact same situation. They may write the exact same letter to the exact same part of Apple. One of them might get a refund and one might not. They might both get refunds. It might be that neither of them get a refund. In great part it depends on the particular customer service person you get and how they are interpreting policy on that day. It is worth a try and might work out, but there is no guarantee of that whatsoever, in my experience.

Furthermore, nothing about the game requires you to spend any money. Ever. None. You made that choice. It is a free game! You spent money based on expectations that you yourself created and do not really exist anywhere else. Now you feel that those self created expectations have been violated and you are upset. I am not saying you should or should not be upset. I am merely observing what seems to be the structure of it.

You have no legal rights, per se. They changed the game. They own the game. You do not. They could cancel your account tomorrow for no reason. That would be a big change. You could pursue this if it happened and you might get some satisfaction from Apple, but it is not guaranteed or even likely. In fact it is unlikely and would not be good business practice for Apple as a policy. People play through games and get 'done' with them. Some of them are far more finite than CH in their play duration.

You have no guarantee that the game will exist tomorrow or be maintained in any way after this moment. Nothing. There is no contract of this sort involved. If the game or app is actively removed from iTunes that is a different case, but that is not the case here.
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Re: Fix the broken warrior no all warrior want to be tanks

#48
Defence is to evade and armor is for less damage. As a rogue I tank better in Frozen then in radiant because t's armor is so low. It is strictly a dps piece and does not allow dps to tank like a war at all.

You got it, is no worth it the bp and legs to put it on you lose your whole armor , but some clases got no armor to
In bps and legs. They complety lose the focus of the conversation we had few ks runs agains each other and the winner was who ever hit fisrt and cause more damage as is at moment i will loose every single kill.
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Re: Fix the broken warrior no all warrior want to be tanks

#49
Fro your problem is you have only got radiant boots and gloves, these do not add to damage only radiant legs chest and amulet add ti damage

My rings give the same amount of attack without loosing my armor but the slow of my attacks make me a tank. Like i said i used more then 30 books of rebirth try every build combination but a warrior cannot be dps ( to
Win a battle) period as is at moment when U see the refill time of other clas as warrios is pathethic the slow it is. Put 3 idevices at same time at warrior,rogue,ranger without weps or equal speed ( noob weps) and you will see a delayed innthe warrior,
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Re: Fix the broken warrior no all warrior want to be tanks

#50
Fromen,

The best answer to your orignal question of "How this could be" is this thread...

http://www.onethumbmobile.com/celticher ... sing+rogue

The fundamental difference between your build and the Rogue is weapon speed and skill set.

Cheers,
I know that thats why Im saying the warrior is Broken , but recently nerftrd on the warrior has make the gap too big and if u see the regular hits after a skill hit in rogue and ranger are inmediately after the warrior loose a whole turn.
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