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Re: Noobs, Future Target Lock, High Lvls Quitting And Realit

#11


But honestly think about it, why 20%?
If any group is at 20% and can lose the mob they shouldn't be fighting that mob.
That's incorrect. It is also the reason target lock is being added.

A group of level 80 to 100 players SHOULD be fighting Falgren, for example. It is their right to enjoy the game. It is their right to play out the quests and gain the armour that we all have had the chance to get. It will take them some time to kill, however.

Meanwhile three level 140 and above can slice through Falgren and get the kill even if the initial group has it down 20 or 30%. The high levels are doing it for profit or for their alts.

I am certainly guilty of killing Ducarius, Avatar, Kiara et al. for profit if there is no one fighting it.

In another instance, think about that Tempest cloud. It is level 30, and designed for level 30-50. Players in that range are correct for the fight. A level 100 could easily swoop in an ks them.

I challenge you to find me a group of level 50s who were able to kill the Crossroad Wyvern in the summer (certainly a boss for their level). In reality, level 100s and above camped the spawn and killed it in a few hits.

I agree with you if you are talking about a group that is fighting above their level. But the problem is that far too many people are fighting below their level... myself included.
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lvl 135+ Druid (Double Helix Build)
Clan Infection... of the Britannians family of clans.

Re: Noobs, Future Target Lock, High Lvls Quitting And Realit

#12
The top level clans will continue to camp these bosses, honeslty you will have a less chance of getting drops with target lock!
A high level player or a great clan wont check up on bosses like they do now, they will camp all day to get what they need, you will not have a better chance, people will sit there all day to get what they need.

To OTM :

Target lock will not solve issues, if i want a dragon disk now, ill check up on falgren, if target lock comes, i will camp it continuosly because i know that if im just a tad late and a noob group gets the lock, i wont get my drag that i wanted.

Thank you for reading
-Charge
I don't know if it's still in the works, but OTM said a while ago that part of the target lock system would be a level range requirement.

I was said that it would work both ways. ie... A group of level 150s could not kill Falgren, and a group of level 50s could not zerg Redbane.


ps... the "noob" group you mentioned in the Falgren clause is probably the group that should be fighting Falgren. :lol:
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Dersu of Herne
lvl 135+ Druid (Double Helix Build)
Clan Infection... of the Britannians family of clans.

Re: Noobs, Future Target Lock, High Lvls Quitting And Realit

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To OTM :

Target lock will not solve issues, if i want a dragon disk now, ill check up on falgren, if target lock comes, i will camp it continuosly because i know that if im just a tad late and a noob group gets the lock, i wont get my drag that i want.
For sure.

I don't think OTM realizes the potentially loss of cash flow into their bank accounts.

I will no longer be burning through my lixes to lvl my alt; instead I will be sitting at a boss spawn waiting patiently.

Maybe target lock isn't such a bad idea, it will only save me cash.
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Re: Noobs, Future Target Lock, High Lvls Quitting And Realit

#14
The top level clans will continue to camp these bosses, honeslty you will have a less chance of getting drops with target lock!
A high level player or a great clan wont check up on bosses like they do now, they will camp all day to get what they need, you will not have a better chance, people will sit there all day to get what they need.

To OTM :

Target lock will not solve issues, if i want a dragon disk now, ill check up on falgren, if target lock comes, i will camp it continuosly because i know that if im just a tad late and a noob group gets the lock, i wont get my drag that i wanted.

Thank you for reading
-Charge
I don't know if it's still in the works, but OTM said a while ago that part of the target lock system would be a level range requirement.

I was said that it would work both ways. ie... A group of level 150s could not kill Falgren, and a group of level 50s could not zerg Redbane.


ps... the "noob" group you mentioned in the Falgren clause is probably the group that should be fighting Falgren. :lol:
If they make it so that we cant kill a boss after we surpass a certain level than they have ruined the game.
I level past 150 using elixers that i pay cash to OTM to get and whats my reward? I cant kill a boss.
If this happens then OTM has lost all business from me.
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Re: Noobs, Future Target Lock, High Lvls Quitting And Realit

#15
The top level clans will continue to camp these bosses, honeslty you will have a less chance of getting drops with target lock!
A high level player or a great clan wont check up on bosses like they do now, they will camp all day to get what they need, you will not have a better chance, people will sit there all day to get what they need.

To OTM :

Target lock will not solve issues, if i want a dragon disk now, ill check up on falgren, if target lock comes, i will camp it continuosly because i know that if im just a tad late and a noob group gets the lock, i wont get my drag that i wanted.

Thank you for reading
-Charge
I don't know if it's still in the works, but OTM said a while ago that part of the target lock system would be a level range requirement.

I was said that it would work both ways. ie... A group of level 150s could not kill Falgren, and a group of level 50s could not zerg Redbane.


ps... the "noob" group you mentioned in the Falgren clause is probably the group that should be fighting Falgren. :lol:
If they make it so that we cant kill a boss after we surpass a certain level than they have ruined the game.
I level past 150 using elixers that i pay cash to OTM to get and whats my reward? I cant kill a boss.
If this happens then OTM has lost all business from me.

Well if you go another player will come , why so many ppl whining about this if you are always scouting and have players online you can do any boss you want. This looks like we are going back to system before update 3 so players who did play back them know about this only new factor will be that you know if lock to your group .

This probably boost revenue for them just imagine all the unprepared groups panicking because another clan will come and target lock , because they will come with idols and resto pots just not to died i mean as tank i will have to heavy stock on resto post just not to let the boss reset , the dps will put more health just not to be wipe outand this will increase battle time all classes will use resto like water so tell me

How elixirs the cost less them 10 plat will be equivalent to thousand of idols and restoration potion just not let other clan lock the boss . You will not hear ohh if we used more then 2 idols we got make new strategy....
. And the druids instead of healer will become calmers and buffers to try to get the other group to wipe out and they will get ...
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Re: Noobs, Future Target Lock, High Lvls Quitting And Realit

#16

I challenge you to find me a group of level 50s who were able to kill the Crossroad Wyvern in the summer (certainly a boss for their level). In reality, level 100s and above camped the spawn and killed it in a few hits.

I agree with you if you are talking about a group that is fighting above their level. But the problem is that far too many people are fighting below their level... myself included.
Srry dersu but this was a bad example ive seen lvl 50s fighting this dragon and all died then had to call for help from higher lvls. Also all players have the same rights imo if a higher lvl is killing falgren for his alt that is his right he worked for his lvl and should be able to use it to kill falgren for his alt.

Re: Noobs, Future Target Lock, High Lvls Quitting And Realit

#17
If everyone refused to BUY frags and meteoric items from high lvl players (and their alts) that would curb part of the problem. I've been running around SV in my lirs gear and I'm cool with it for now. People have offered to 'sell' me frags after soloing bosses right next me whilst leveling. I simply don't buy out of principle and because I don't make gold fast enough to meet the costly demands of other players. I really miss some of the good clans on Arawn, however not sure if anyone I know there still plays or if those clans exist...it's been well over six months since I've played regularly. We all shared our drops and nobody had to pay as long as you were willing to give. I've met a few nice people on Morrigan, but have encountered one solid stand up clan so far. Once I get over the flu its back to work for me, so I doubt I will be camping for warden gear since I won't have time. This also means I won't qualify for good clans not being properly geared...catch 22. I'm at a crossroads once again, because I don't have time to farm gold to line higher lvl players pockets just for gear quests. I've started a druid back on arawn just in case people from Serenity (if that clan even exists still) or other like minded (adult) players/clans still play there. It seems the worlds are overwhelmed with mages these days anyhow.
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Re: Noobs, Future Target Lock, High Lvls Quitting And Realit

#18
Srry dersu but this was a bad example ive seen lvl 50s fighting this dragon and all died then had to call for help from higher lvls. Also all players have the same rights imo if a higher lvl is killing falgren for his alt that is his right he worked for his lvl and should be able to use it to kill falgren for his alt.
You misread my reference, Yilley. I wasn't talking about the level 50 Hatchling (in the field near the Crossroad). I was talking about the level 30 Wyvern directly at the Crossroad.

That Wyvren was added to allow lower levels a chance to enjoy the summer event. Unfortunately, they rarely got the chance.

Hey, I have no problem at all with high levels farming for their alts. I do it too. I DO have a problem with a high level (or small group) taking a kill from a group that was fighting first. That isn't FFA... it's shooting fish in a barrel because you can.

Here's a quote from someone who (with two other 130s) would actively ks on legitimate (level 90s for instance) Falgren groups:
I dunno about your world or the motivation behind your higher levels...

But I personally make sure no lower level is getting falgren.

Why? Since the update, disc prices dropped through the floor.

Cut off their supply and create the demand. Nooks are fast figuring out not to demand pricing or to say things are being unfairly 'over priced'.

Am I wrong for doing this? Nah. Matter of fact, I'm getting too many drags and actually having to drop them :lol:
It is that attitude and game play that OTM is trying to ... smooth out... with a target lock.
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Dersu of Herne
lvl 135+ Druid (Double Helix Build)
Clan Infection... of the Britannians family of clans.

Re: Noobs, Future Target Lock, High Lvls Quitting And Realit

#19

If they make it so that we cant kill a boss after we surpass a certain level than they have ruined the game.
I level past 150 using elixers that i pay cash to OTM to get and whats my reward? I cant kill a boss.
If this happens then OTM has lost all business from me.
Again, don't quote me on it... I am going from memory, and I used Falgren as an example. I would suspect that Fal would be fair play for the current level divide, but it might mean that a level 160 could not farm Dustwither mini-bosses or Defectors. Maybe they still could, but wouldn't be granted a target lock?

What they really need to do is lessen the incentive for over-killing. If we could train in OW and gain a meaningful amount of gold per hour, we wouldn't feel the desire to run around looking for Defectors to kill.
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Clan Infection... of the Britannians family of clans.

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