Celtic Heroes

I have been playing since V2. After each update, I have seen many players who are new to the game give it a chance. More of the ones who start within the first few months keep playing and lvling. As time goes on after an update, the volume on this drops. Even now, over a year since V4 was released, most of the people that I see breaking 100 on Arawn are either alts or server transfers as opposed to new players. I am not saying this as a fact, just an observation.

Lack of content is a big part of the issue. For a while after an update, people have plenty to do. They have new quests for armor and weapons, they have new areas to explore and they have a new soft cap to lvl towards. Once people have gotten themselves geared up and helped their clan do the same, there isn't much to do other than raids every 3-4 days. The solution for many is to lvl an alt. This is good because it keeps people playing the game. It also stops new people from continuing to play the game.

Most people that I have seen, myself included, would rather take their main to a boss that is going to drop a quest item. The main is more powerful and, with other high lvl clan members, drops are easier to get. Target lock is a joke. A group of lvl 180+ have no problem beating out an appropriate lvled group for frozen drops. Stonevale bosses can easily be soloed for their drops. Gearing up an alt with a main is just easier.

Someone downloading CH and playing for the first time may have a better chance of sticking around longer if they can do the quests that they are supposed to be able to do at their lvl. Playing for a couple hours at a time, it may take someone a couple weeks to get to the point when they start the Warden quests. These people may decide not to become customers if they get frustrated because they can't get any gear. As they lvl up and remain in store armor, things get more frustrating. By the time they should be starting on frozen, they may leave, figuring it isn't worth the effort. Getting these little digital pieces of cheese is what keeps us hitting the button.

Before throwing your two cents in on this one, consider it not as a player. Think along the lines of if this were your business. If you want to get as many customers as you can, you have to give them something in return. Sure, playing the game is fun but people aren't going to decide to spend money if they can't continue to progress.

If I understand you correctly your argument is that because we have mains we camp the lower level bosses to gear our alts and therefore making it near impossible for lower levels to get equipped. (actually the same goes for high level players not in strong clans on most worlds).

How about making all quest drops no-trade and classless AND make it so that you can't get drops for a quest you have already finished. Maybe even better make the quests about killing X of each boss. For example for frozen web kill 10 pyrus and 2 ignus or something like that. If it were like this there would also be less fights on quest bosses which might be a good thing overall for the game. Also people could no longer farm bosses only to sell the drops at huge prizes to lower level players.

Is it an alt if they are all the same level and you always play all of them? I keep trying to explain I don't have a single main but it never fits into clan/server rules well or people's pre-concieved notions. In reality I have 5 mains and hordes of alts. Additionally I gain xp far faster than solo, perhaps 4 times faster than average and have done up to 3 simeltaneous different boss battles which makes up for the extreme hassle of multiboxing.

The only times gearing alts becomes bad in my opinion, is when an alt gets geared up before a main. This one time a friend of mine was in a group with a high lvled warrior. They killed Falgren and the warrior got the drop. The warrior proceeded to keep the drop for an alt while a main didn't get anything he needed after hours of camping. It just doesn't make any sense, and quite frankly it ticks me off. This is my opinion on alts getting geared before mains.

These two quotes show one of the reasons that I get frustrated with this game. I dual box like Plus3, but my alt will never get the gear that other people have, and will never be as effective because mains always get geared before alts at the end game. In v3, camping pyrus for Lion Crests was hard and time consuming, but it was possible. In v4 I have given up all hope of ever getting a dragonlord weapon or offhand for my alt. It's frustrating when you know you can try and try and try your hardest, but you will never reach your goal.

Alts are never bad business as long as you have a good fortune to spend while nothing else to spend on. But becareful, when you make an alt your main will get neglected at some point.

Thats where my argument comes in. Dual devicing is great with alts, we all know that, but how do you successfuly manage your attention over 2+ devices?

Makes sense if 1 alt is an endgame ranger, since most are auto and rely on 1-2 skills during battle. You're shifting your attention constantly, sometimes where you could have focused on one toon at a boss battle rather than 2+, you could have done some extra more.

Then again, there are some people with alien-like physical deformities, or lets say bonuses. They have 3 eyes, got a couple extra hands, so dual devicing and alt making is efficient for them.

Alts are never bad business as long as you have a good fortune to spend while nothing else to spend on. But becareful, when you make an alt your main will get neglected at some point.

Thats where my argument comes in. Dual devicing is great with alts, we all know that, but how do you successfuly manage your attention over 2+ devices?

Makes sense if 1 alt is an endgame ranger, since most are auto and rely on 1-2 skills during battle. You're shifting your attention constantly, sometimes where you could have focused on one toon at a boss battle rather than 2+, you could have done some extra more.

Then again, there are some people with alien-like physical deformities, or lets say bonuses. They have 3 eyes, got a couple extra hands, so dual devicing and alt making is efficient for them.

Really, you're insulting dual devicers for doing something you find yourself incapable of doing? Why do so many people do that, it's just so annoying that people think this way. I dual deviced my druid and rogue combo from my druid at 120 and rogue at 1 and now we're at 180 and 191. My dual devicing druid capabilities are higher than many mains that I've seen play, I can keep my casts constant and even pay attention on remaining buff time to conserve energy all while killing adds and getting the kill on bosses on my rogue. There were times where me bringing my druid would make or break a fight(or caused an insane wait time for another druid to log)It's not even hard to do and I wish people would just stop calling dual devicers bad or inefficient when it's so absurdly incorrect.

Alts are never bad business as long as you have a good fortune to spend while nothing else to spend on. But becareful, when you make an alt your main will get neglected at some point.

Thats where my argument comes in. Dual devicing is great with alts, we all know that, but how do you successfuly manage your attention over 2+ devices?

Makes sense if 1 alt is an endgame ranger, since most are auto and rely on 1-2 skills during battle. You're shifting your attention constantly, sometimes where you could have focused on one toon at a boss battle rather than 2+, you could have done some extra more.

Then again, there are some people with alien-like physical deformities, or lets say bonuses. They have 3 eyes, got a couple extra hands, so dual devicing and alt making is efficient for them.

Really, you're insulting dual devicers for doing something you find yourself incapable of doing? Why do so many people do that, it's just so annoying that people think this way. I dual deviced my druid and rogue combo from my druid at 120 and rogue at 1 and now we're at 180 and 191. My dual devicing druid capabilities are higher than many mains that I've seen play, I can keep my casts constant and even pay attention on remaining buff time to conserve energy all while killing adds and getting the kill on bosses on my rogue. There were times where me bringing my druid would make or break a fight(or caused an insane wait time for another druid to log)It's not even hard to do and I wish people would just stop calling dual devicers bad or inefficient when it's so absurdly incorrect.