Celtic Heroes

The arguments have gone not well. We should not be putting limits on out character builds and factor sigils out of the equation.

Take this for example :
Me and someone else are having a race, and my opponent is slower than i am and everyone knows it.
Im faster because i work out more, i run more, and i take care of myself and do what is necessary to be the best i can be (getting gear)
I also have a personal trainer that i pay for to make myself better (sigils).
Now since we are having having a race for competition and everyone knows im faster, weights are put on my legs to even out the difference of physical fitness and make the race more fair.

Does this make any sense? Of course it doesnt, They didnt put a blindfold on Van Goh when he painted just because he was great at it.
They didnt give rey mesterio's opponent steroids because he wasnt as good of a wrestler. (or whatever you would call WWE participants)

So why do we look down upon people who use sigils to better there characters.
I, myself, was wrong in a previous post i made about brookie not using a haste/combo etc etc.
No, thats not how it should be, both players do what they can to be the best they can and there is no problem with that.

guys lets state the obvious here. me a lvl 150 at first kill and 151 at second kill druid got the kill over a pretty much full geared 154-155 rogue (he lvld too between 1st and 2nd i believe) a lvl 156 ranger (also all the main dps gear such as agg rings and earthstone), a lvl 149 warrior on a combo (IMO should be better too) a lvl 151 ranger with knucks (h2h maxed i believe, hes beaten main dps on major bosses before), a lvl 150 mage (full dps, no agg braces but a good princecharm and i believe a agg ring 6 shards), a lvl 150 rogue (less geared then the 155 but still decent dps) and a lvl 154 mage (full dps with ice brace, ring and more. he outdpsd brookie on haste before). my question is how in hell can a pure support class overdamage all of these dps classes? the answer is that druids arent such bad dps at all, as long as you are willing to spend on it (in the form of sigils and many many pots) and are willing to give up the ability of solo overhealing bosses (i used to overheal ignus lavalordon my own as support). surviving as druid dps is also not an option, i died on one regular hit from aggragoth i believe... can a mage do this too? i believe they can, as they even have more dps options (firestorm as extra dps attack compared to druids). can a rogue do this too? yes if brookie goes literally all points on strength and nothing on any else im sure he will do just as good on a combo. can rangers do this? ive thought about it but i think only with knucks, as rangers are more a class for solo lvling and more usefull then a rogue at some situation, therefor making rangers a class that can do more then rogues and therefor turn in some dps, with knucks and full gear could be possible tho. can a warrior do this? same situation as ranger they can survive more and arent really set up for pure dps, so i wouldnt expect a warrior to do super dps, even on combo.

what im trying to say here is that what i did could have been done by pretty much anyone thats willing to give up all other intensions. brookie turned it into rogues are underpowered, but try what i said then see if you or presmagic gets kill, i think you will. we are just willing to give all rest options up to be dps.

also i dont expect many other people to do this, as it is not worth for many, for me it is because my heal still works decent, i still overheal many bosses too. but if it comes as far as major bosses like stone or lava i am no more then some dps and a heal every now and then, i dont easily get kills on these bosses because i have to heal as well, and i cant overheal them either, because i dont have buffs. being dps is fun, but you give up some good things.

the reason why brookie made this post is to find out how and why a druid outdpses a main dps class like rogue or mage. the reason i went into this post is because i wanted to celebrate the fact druids arent useless as dps class, as many thought. even tho druids are obviously best as support, if there are many druids on your server (as mine) one or two can afford to go dps and be helpfull as well instead of being the one buff taker and barely having to cast nature touch (at one point we had so many druids i only had to do my buffs, bark and fire ward, and didnt have to heal actually entire fight).

dont make this a thread to hate on my kill, i didnt even care that it was me, for all i care it was someone on a diff server, as long as it was a druid. all i wanna say is druids where undervalued as dps, i hope that stops now. rogues where OP on dps for a long time, im actually happy it became a battle, as brookie killed..(fill in blanks).. became a bit boring to see all the time.

Should it be a battle though yrck.?
The advantages of a Druid are good buffs good heals good support skills good dps can solo slowly every group needs for bosses every group likes to lvl with one.
The advantage of rogues... Good dps lvl fast with a Druid. They use to have a clear advantage with dps which was great. Now it clearly shows that any class apart from maybe a warrior can get close to there dps without having anything good about the class. They gonna make our skills better in update? That won't do it we would need some serious lookin at as in mana wise as my sneak is using 200+ mana and when I went for max skills hit moths ago mu assasinate use like 400+ I would need to go full focus to even use these at a decent chance not to mention they are limited to when they can be used. The class is clearly broken

Lol brookie told ONI he needs better gear LMFAO

Hahaha Thats hilarious...

And Honestly, i love to brag, but thats when theres concrete proof. All Around, id have to say im one of top dps. I mean thats known. Oni also. It's usually a pure luck think on who gets sometimes. All i got is dps so im sure as hell gonna work towards dps. Definitely. But for my clan. I KNOW im top dps outside of ava. Legit. Whole server knows. Why? Cause theres proof of me winning fights against whole groups. I am damn sure people like oni, cmfl, and elim have won fights against groups solo. The reason is, we worked at it. We are still a clan. Hell piggy aint the best dps i ever seen. Still better then most. He still helps clan a lot. Everyone contributes.

My thing is, druids, u heal. Dont try to take a rogues job because you think you can. We can't take ur job. Dont plan on it either.

And Honestly, i love to brag, but thats when theres concrete proof. All Around, id have to say im one of top dps. I mean thats known. Oni also. It's usually a pure luck think on who gets sometimes. All i got is dps so im sure as hell gonna work towards dps. Definitely. But for my clan. I KNOW im top dps outside of ava. Legit. Whole server knows. Why? Cause theres proof of me winning fights against whole groups. I am damn sure people like oni, cmfl, and elim have won fights against groups solo. The reason is, we worked at it. We are still a clan. Hell piggy aint the best dps i ever seen. Still better then most. He still helps clan a lot. Everyone contributes.

My thing is, druids, u heal. Dont try to take a rogues job because you think you can. We can't take ur job. Dont plan on it either.

Well if a druid can do it, then why shouldn't they do it? It's like saying warriors should only be tank nothing else or mages only lure monkey and nothing else.

It's a stupidly selfish act. Druids are MADE for healing. No other class does this well. And that is that. Point made, checkmate, doesnt need a reply. Our classes are made for one reason. We don't have different paths like other games.

When you have enough druids to heal and a Druid can be decent dps then why not make him decent dps? My point is he shouldn't beable to have decent dps to have this choice.

If you have enough druids where one can be used as DPS and the magic damage helps kill Aggragoth faster, it's not selfish but actually beneficial imo. If you struggle with heals and you got a druid still doing this, then yes it's selfish.

What Yrck said was right, anyone willing to give up all intentions besides pure dps, they have a shot at killing aggragoth with the right setup, support, etc.

Now comparing between worlds is pointless, saying people suck and need better equipment makes zero sense as well. Each world has entirely different situations in how they take on Aggragoth. Different players, different support, different groups, etc. A situation like this has so many variables involved to simply chop it up to lack of gear shows nothing but ignorance.

If you have enough druids where one can be used as DPS and the magic damage helps kill Aggragoth faster, it's not selfish but actually beneficial imo. If you struggle with heals and you got a druid still doing this, then yes it's selfish.

What Yrck said was right, anyone willing to give up all intentions besides pure dps, they have a shot at killing aggragoth with the right setup, support, etc.

Now comparing between worlds is pointless, saying people suck and need better equipment makes zero sense as well. Each world has entirely different situations in how they take on Aggragoth. Different players, different support, different groups, etc. A situation like this has so many variables involved to simply chop it up to lack of gear shows nothing but ignorance.

i have alt books ready and when told i change support in just a min. i am far from selfish, i did it to get more kills for my clan. it got my clan quite some kills they might not have had. if i am needed as support i change, no problem. dps was actually more needed then druids in awake... mainly because of the many druid alt dual boxers... i dont like the fact they sometimes get gear a main druid could have used better, therefor i changed my build to stand out. plus i wanted to try it... my build did stand out, it did help and it did not do what i hoped it would do. yet i still use it as my current clan (with the same leader as old united clan) needs the dps too and i can still heal fine on a lot of bosses.