Celtic Heroes

The point of these quests is to take time to accomplish. That's about the only gratification that comes with it. Gaining these hard to get items from phs will still take a big commitment of time.

I don't know about that. One person in our clan who likes to go around killing placeholders may have gotten at least a dozen crests already solo in just a matter of days.

The petition created on allowing stone and red boss PHs to drop quest pieces would correct this in a heartbeat.

We could do this if there is a demand - we have tried this in otherworld with the ph's but this wasn't a very popular move judging by the forum posts about otherworld placeholders.

I am not sure the system can be improved. I am level 131 and am still working on my last wisp for the Meteoric weapon. So yes, I will be killing it when I find it. I also did not get to start warden until around level 80. I just was not needed often in groups. A large part of the problem is people for some reason expect to get drops in their 60s. Sorry but a level 60 is not contributing much on any of the Warden/Meteoric bosses.

Or if the drop engine would not give quest drops to people that have already completed the quest.

May have gotten? I don't think so. I've been camping three phs for two weeks along with everyone else. I've gotten three crests off of chained ph (all purple) and one off stonelord ph (purple too) and that's out of about 30-40 kills.

May have gotten? I don't think so. I've been camping three phs for two weeks along with everyone else. I've gotten three crests off of chained ph (all purple) and one off stonelord ph (purple too) and that's out of about 30-40 kills.

So 1 in 10 ?

If they drop more often than that why not just give people crests for signing up to play the game at all?

If you are patient you will get plenty of crests.

What are all the things you can do in this game?
1. Level
2. Farm gold to buy stuff
3. Collect required stuff for quests.

Leveling is easy, you kill the highest level mob you can.

Farming is a matter of how much gold per second can I make. So you will find high 100-140 in stonevale, shalemont and dustwither clear cutting every mob in sight to the dismay of the lower levels. We need a reason to stay in OW. Why does a level 122 Stone Golum drop the same gold as a level 22 Disciple of Donn? Considering the fight and the recovery it takes me 3 min to kill that golum for 7 gp when in that same 3 min I can completely clear out the cadaver wing and the skelly wing of dust getting an average of 5 per kill and more depending on the item drops. Am I cheating the lower levels? Yes but that is what the developers want us to do. If not they would change it.

Collecting required stuff is problematic if camping encourages some boredom relief. Example: Belly is a level 80+ mob even though it is in lirs. Having higher levels walking around lirs is good because the lower levels get motivated by seeing these impressive toons. But nobody walks over and kills hairy because it is a waste of time. Hairy is always up. Lower levels get their quests and still we get some interaction.

If hairy had a decent gold return then everyone camping belly would be raping hairy's camp for something to do.

Other good examples: Luther, the prison guard twins, Marshal Gannon and his letter,

Bad examples: All the defectors, Falgren, Dustwither bosses,

IMHO toons need incentive to stay with the content that is designed for their level and disincentive to disrupt other content.
If you already have Warden you should never want to kill Falgren