Celtic Heroes

I agree with you 100% rap. Especially the p.s. part. idk how to requote but wish i could

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That all dps clan just killed aggra last night with no help from other clans whatsoever

It seems odd to me, to hear ppl say a clan is incapable or undeserving of killing a boss because another clan can out DPS them. I can take my rogue and stand in the catas, and take Kiera every time a team shows up to kill her. Does that mean all the new players trying to finish that quest don't deserve to until they get a team up to lvl 140 who can outDPS me? That's just silly.

It seems odd to me, to hear ppl say a clan is incapable or undeserving of killing a boss because another clan can out DPS them. I can take my rogue and stand in the catas, and take Kiera every time a team shows up to kill her. Does that mean all the new players trying to finish that quest don't deserve to until they get a team up to lvl 140 who can outDPS me? That's just silly.

This has framed the biggest issue I have with CH. It's system allows for bullies and takes the fun away from the majority who eventually leave the game. When you push your strength around at the expense of others it becomes an act of selfish bullying. Call it "competition" call it "we worked hard to be who we are", but realize that in the eyes of your server you are defining yourself as bullies.

It seems odd to me, to hear ppl say a clan is incapable or undeserving of killing a boss because another clan can out DPS them. I can take my rogue and stand in the catas, and take Kiera every time a team shows up to kill her. Does that mean all the new players trying to finish that quest don't deserve to until they get a team up to lvl 140 who can outDPS me? That's just silly.

This has framed the biggest issue I have with CH. It's system allows for bullies and takes the fun away from the majority who eventually leave the game. When you push your strength around at the expense of others it becomes an act of selfish bullying. Call it "competition" call it "we worked hard to be who we are", but realize that in the eyes of your server you are defining yourself as bullies.

And I guess this is the biggest thing I like about CH.. That the player community chiefly defines the game. That yes, Bullying occurs, that yes the game's mechanics allow for some perilous gameplay at another's expense..without a doubt. But the community, and whether that be clan-specific community, or server-specific defines who they are and what they are in the midst of that.

To me, I completely understand the dislike expressed by the idea that griefers can act with impunity, but in essence I enjoy being able to say, my clan and my crew doesn't stand for that kind of gameplay, we won't do that, and we won't enter into it. And maybe that means that we will get a bit less loot, but we will still be able to enjoy the fact that we engage daily in a manner that we are Celtic Heroes, and not Celtic Villians.

But I think if you remove the "choice" of conduct, the environment becomes so sterile that it may become unpalatable.

As I was running around checking bosses I came across Stonefang Elite. Nothing new, but there was two noob clans, 8-9 characters, discussing how they were going to group and take the boss down. Who will tank, who will heal, it was not too long ago I had the same conversations. I just watched from afar as they prepared to enter into a battle that required everyone working together to achieve a victory. I was considering helping but felt that they would get more out of it if I just observed...

Then a level 150 warrior marched in, grab Stonefang and soloed him.

The conversations stopped and it was disheartening to see one by one character leveling in disappointment.
All for a Rose Quartz...

As I was running around checking bosses I came across Stonefang Elite. Nothing new, but there was two noob clans, 8-9 characters, discussing how they were going to group and take the boss down. Who will tank, who will heal, it was not too long ago I had the same conversations. I just watched from afar as they prepared to enter into a battle that required everyone working together to achieve a victory. I was considering helping but felt that they would get more out of it if I just observed...

Then a level 150 warrior marched in, grab Stonefang and soloed him.

The conversations stopped and it was disheartening to see one by one character leveling in disappointment.
All for a Rose Quartz...

I think you may be talking about me here. If so then I'd have you know I was whispered by some of the noobs to help them kill stonefang. I was near so I ran in and helped like they asked. Right before the mob was dead I logged out so their group could get the drop and xp. I agree that it is better if they learned to do it on their own, but they had already attempted and failed in this instance.

Has the dps clan have killed aggra yet?
Just wondering cos Theodog said and I thought they haven't yet

As I was running around checking bosses I came across Stonefang Elite. Nothing new, but there was two noob clans, 8-9 characters, discussing how they were going to group and take the boss down. Who will tank, who will heal, it was not too long ago I had the same conversations. I just watched from afar as they prepared to enter into a battle that required everyone working together to achieve a victory. I was considering helping but felt that they would get more out of it if I just observed...

Then a level 150 warrior marched in, grab Stonefang and soloed him.

The conversations stopped and it was disheartening to see one by one character leveling in disappointment.
All for a Rose Quartz...

I think you may be talking about me here. If so then I'd have you know I was whispered by some of the noobs to help them kill stonefang. I was near so I ran in and helped like they asked. Right before the mob was dead I logged out so their group could get the drop and xp. I agree that it is better if they learned to do it on their own, but they had already attempted and failed in this instance.

It was not you and Deuc.
I have seen you more than once help others, great job!