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Re: End-Game balance: The results are in.

#21
To be honest it would probably be more appropriate to provide stats on how many of each class have hit 180+ as ik me and morphmarfa are the same level at 185 and krazykatz is 190.
I'm not saying these accurately reflect balance, but just to throw the numbers out there how many of each class has reached level 180 or higher is as follows:

Druids: 14
Mages: 40
Rangers: 33
Rogues: 49
Warriors: 60

Something interesting to note is that these are in the same order as the original post except that warriors outnumber rogues for total 180+.

Re: End-Game balance: The results are in.

#22
Good work arc. The discrepancy in rogues is interesting, also druids. Looks like people got their druids to level 180 or 185 and stopped leveling. This shows almost no one is excited about leveling their druid.

However it does look like everyone is excited about leveling their rogues and pushing it skyward.

With a decent amount of sigils, it looks like rogues are the way to go on solo leveling end game most likely.

Warriors is what I expected the best all around class. The "players class" if you will.
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Re: End-Game balance: The results are in.

#23
I cant comment for other druids but I stopped at 185 as I find it pointless to lix till there are consistent 186 and above mobs.
its all about return of value per lix for me. Kudos to those who hit 195 and like wasting their lix. Works for them but aren't for me.

Having said that, this has nothing to do with what Midi said regarding excitement.
MorphMarfa has retired from Celtic Heroes and most probably wont be resurfacing. He had a enjoyable time during his druid adventures in Taranis.

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Re: End-Game balance: The results are in.

#25
I just like to say you seem constantly upset about your mage class but it is the 3rd best in both of these. Now lets talk common sence top 50 was a stupid thing to do its not a big enough scale.

Why do roges outweigh warriors in top 50? Simple rogues are worth leveling more for dps terms at higher levels a warrior at 180 isnt that much difference to a warrior at 190 just 50 stat points where a rogue will have more dps on a boss like morddis by a good 50% from 180-190 so it is very important to level up. This goes for druids also. At 180 they gain very little from 50 extra focus so whats the point??... Many druids will have there 50 or 49 nature touch at 150 so they can afford to level slower then other classes imo.

This only shows which class is good at solo leveling imo. Rogues are decent to level but this is not even half of the game. Bosses gear play a bigger part.

So here is something for you on the new bosses put into order how much each class is needed on a boss fight 1-5 1 being most needed 5 being least. Ill do mine

1. Druids- almost impossible to bosses efficiently without there buffs and heals
2. Warrior- there add control and tanking ability make any boss so much easier
3- ranger- the fact they can bolas and stay far away aswell as deliver nice heals and semi good support makes them an almost must for new bosses
4- mage- there lures make any boss go up to 4 times the speed and there dps is now the best even in over time cases.
5-rogue- they have an important roll of dps but it can be taken by a mages easy. There support is also not comparable to mages currently the least needed for boss fights imo but is still needed.

So when you look at that really maybe rogues have to level so high just to be 'needed' at a boss fight?? Id love to see what others think of my question.
Brookie1 lvl 172+ rogue rosmerta. Best damn rogue ever! Clan awakening

Re: End-Game balance: The results are in.

#26
Excellent brookie. Yes you highlighted a lot of valuable points about what needs to be improved with the game.

first, I'm not going to scrap this because mage is 3rd best in end game. The truth is the truth and it doesn't bother me. For my level though, it is worse.

Rogues are worth leveling more than warriors and druids? True. That highlights an issue with the game. OTM needs to make it more valuable to level druids and warriors.

This only shows what class is best at solo leveling? Right, I agree with you. OTM needs to make grouping more valuable and bring every class up to the solo leveling standards of the warrior. Why make 1 class far and away the best solo leveler? Also rogues with moderate sigils are also great at solo leveling. Also mages with huge sigils are great at solo leveling. None of that is fair at all that some classes are more expensive than others.

Almost impossible to boss efficiently without druids? Of course. That is why most druids are alts because they feel pidgeon holed into one role. Make other classes able to heal better to take the pressure off druids.

And I agree with your bossing list. I sympathize with your frustration that the rogue is not needed. Also can say the same about a standard build mage. The only mage that is good on bosses is pure lure, which is impossible to do anythig with besides boss.

All in all excellent analysis Brookie!
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