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Re: Celtic Heroes and Philosophy - Ethics of Retaliation

#21
Try to kill the guy who jumped the line. If he still got the medal, then you got beat on a pvp quest. Revenge? For what? Suck it up.

This is incredibly easy for a Warrior to say. When you are the consistently targeted class for grief (Ranger), you have no personal ability to win, retaliate, win, win, or win.

This issue is very one sided when it comes to Glad camps. You are either a class which can PvP, or you are a class which cannot. The Gladiator quests are terribly in favor of Warriors, Rogues and Mages who have some semblance of aptitude in the arena.

Losing multiple idols every day defending a glad camp is not fun, but necessary to complete the ONLY exp quest in the game worth doing. "Suck it up?" Easier said than done. Retaliate? That's ineffective too. The only solution to some of these problems are to roll a cookie-cutter class or stop doing the quest.

Retaliation is ineffective on those who have such poor life experiences that they are led to grief others constantly whether in PvP or PvE. The one and only solution in my mind is to continue to level and protect yourself as best as possible on the occasion in which they present themselves as a threat. The griefers will be forever without friends, and hopefully get bored and quit.

I could whine all day long about the gold spent as a cost of doing business by playing a Ranger. I think it would be better, however, for OTM to find more ways to allow us the opportunity to avoid these situations and still enjoy the game by introducing more quests, encounters, development, ect. I think over the next year we will see just that!

lol, people who idol in the arena are the ones i dont stop killing,
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Re: Celtic Heroes and Philosophy - Ethics of Retaliation

#23
Retaliation is ineffective on those who have such poor life experiences that they are led to grief others constantly whether in PvP or PvE.
lol, people who idol in the arena are the ones i dont stop killing,

should have made that clearer.
the only time i kill people in the arena is if im on ym low level alt, anf they give me xp. if said person decidedes to idol to try to kill me after i have beat them, i log onto my main and kill them over and over



idoling is cheating
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Morrigan
Avalon
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Re: Celtic Heroes and Philosophy - Ethics of Retaliation

#26
Try to kill the guy who jumped the line. If he still got the medal, then you got beat on a pvp quest. Revenge? For what? Suck it up.
This is incredibly easy for a Warrior to say. When you are the consistently targeted class for grief (Ranger), you have no personal ability to win, retaliate, win, win, or win.

This issue is very one sided when it comes to Glad camps. You are either a class which can PvP, or you are a class which cannot. The Gladiator quests are terribly in favor of Warriors, Rogues and Mages who have some semblance of aptitude in the arena.
People keep saying that CH is a game where the "community" matters and is better than any other MMO game out there like O&C.

Compared to other worlds, we don't "line up" for gladiator. We do the quest as a clan. We assist our druids, and I suppose, "the weak rangers" and support them so they get a chance to win a medal. Not everyone in our clan gets to do it every day, but we already know there's not enough medals for everyone anyway. We don't camp Glads 24/7 either, we are small after all and other players outside our clan are still able to do them when we don't have a strong arena presence.

But I guess that's just us. We support each other and don't let druids (and rangers) fend alone for themselves. If someone is camping gladiator and needs assistance, all they need to do is ask for help. It is a lot easier now too with target lock to give the medal to a specific person.
the only time i kill people in the arena is if im on ym low level alt, anf they give me xp. if said person decidedes to idol to try to kill me after i have beat them, i log onto my main and kill them over and over

idoling is cheating
I don't kill low levels either unless they attack first, but when I see people on combos and haste/regen lixes in arena, I kill them too.
And yes, anyone I see who idols consistently gets on the KOS list.
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Re: Celtic Heroes and Philosophy - Ethics of Retaliation

#27
Try to kill the guy who jumped the line. If he still got the medal, then you got beat on a pvp quest. Revenge? For what? Suck it up.

This is incredibly easy for a Warrior to say. When you are the consistently targeted class for grief (Ranger), you have no personal ability to win, retaliate, win, win, or win.

This issue is very one sided when it comes to Glad camps. You are either a class which can PvP, or you are a class which cannot. The Gladiator quests are terribly in favor of Warriors, Rogues and Mages who have some semblance of aptitude in the arena.

Losing multiple idols every day defending a glad camp is not fun, but necessary to complete the ONLY exp quest in the game worth doing. "Suck it up?" Easier said than done. Retaliate? That's ineffective too. The only solution to some of these problems are to roll a cookie-cutter class or stop doing the quest.

Retaliation is ineffective on those who have such poor life experiences that they are led to grief others constantly whether in PvP or PvE. The one and only solution in my mind is to continue to level and protect yourself as best as possible on the occasion in which they present themselves as a threat. The griefers will be forever without friends, and hopefully get bored and quit.

I could whine all day long about the gold spent as a cost of doing business by playing a Ranger. I think it would be better, however, for OTM to find more ways to allow us the opportunity to avoid these situations and still enjoy the game by introducing more quests, encounters, development, ect. I think over the next year we will see just that!
If it bothers you so much why not call your clan and group together and whoever gets the medal gets it. I do this all the time and i dont care about getting it first . I just want to see progression as an overall clan, and of course as a group you can kill griefers.
Pdizz
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Morrigan
Clan Avalon

Re: Celtic Heroes and Philosophy - Ethics of Retaliation

#29
Ail,
I've always had this in mind. You are always defending gladiator quest saying that pvp is the key to getting the medal. I completely agree, but you're a warrior and a freaking godly tank at that. So you are impossible to beat in pvp and will always win. I, on the other hand, am a ranger (on maim) , and i am extremely week compared to warriors and rogues. So its very hard to defend myself easily.
All I'm saying is that if you were a ranger , you wouldn't defend the concept so vehemently.
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Re: Celtic Heroes and Philosophy - Ethics of Retaliation

#30
Try to kill the guy who jumped the line. If he still got the medal, then you got beat on a pvp quest. Revenge? For what? Suck it up.
This is incredibly easy for a Warrior to say. When you are the consistently targeted class for grief (Ranger), you have no personal ability to win, retaliate, win, win, or win.

This issue is very one sided when it comes to Glad camps. You are either a class which can PvP, or you are a class which cannot. The Gladiator quests are terribly in favor of Warriors, Rogues and Mages who have some semblance of aptitude in the arena.
People keep saying that CH is a game where the "community" matters and is better than any other MMO game out there like O&C.

Compared to other worlds, we don't "line up" for gladiator. We do the quest as a clan. We assist our druids, and I suppose, "the weak rangers" and support them so they get a chance to win a medal. Not everyone in our clan gets to do it every day, but we already know there's not enough medals for everyone anyway. We don't camp Glads 24/7 either, we are small after all and other players outside our clan are still able to do them when we don't have a strong arena presence.

But I guess that's just us. We support each other and don't let druids (and rangers) fend alone for themselves. If someone is camping gladiator and needs assistance, all they need to do is ask for help. It is a lot easier now too with target lock to give the medal to a specific person.
the only time i kill people in the arena is if im on ym low level alt, anf they give me xp. if said person decidedes to idol to try to kill me after i have beat them, i log onto my main and kill them over and over

idoling is cheating
I don't kill low levels either unless they attack first, but when I see people on combos and haste/regen lixes in arena, I kill them too.
And yes, anyone I see who idols consistently gets on the KOS list.
Exactly, in my world most people dont attack anyone unless they are on the world or clan kos list. I wish they would simply remove idoling in the arena
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