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Re: Double XP bounty?

#21 by Aileron
IMHO nowadays levelling 1-230 takes so long that a double xp weekend would have a not significant impact.
there is no new area to burn through, so this would be a weekend of levelling without the need for Lix.
Be that as it may, but you forget that players end up using less elixirs to level up, which is counter-intuitive to OTM's objective of making players spend more on plat items. So I doubt they'll do double XP again.
Then you won't like my idea for a 4 times XP event while Elix do the normal levels (5X or 4X) they always do.
That would require programming change because they can't simply attach a 2x multiplier to mob XP. So if you actually understand how they come up with mini-events like this with a simple server restart, what you're suggesting is unlikely to happen.
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Re: Double XP bounty?

#22 by Landoril
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@aileron but how do they do a double experience weekend ie in 2012? Did that need a release? They had the small incremental releases back than so maybe that was it.

But I don't care how they do it just what they do and if it takes a release then so be it. And of course I know that would be unlikely.

Still as I said it is only part of the celebration and nice to have.
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Re: Double XP bounty?

#23 by _elsroth
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@aileron but how do they do a double experience weekend ie in 2012? Did that need a release? They had the small incremental releases back than so maybe that was it.

But I don't care how they do it just what they do and if it takes a release then so be it. And of course I know that would be unlikely.

Still as I said it is only part of the celebration and nice to have.
If I understood your comment it was that OTM should implement a x4 xp weekend where elixirs have a normal effect (as if it wasn't x4?

If this is the case OTM would have to re-write entire algorithms so that people on lixes = the same xp as normal mobs prior to the xp boost. But the mobs atm would have x4 xp so they'd have to recode the old one back into the new one?... It's really over-complex and something OTM wouldn't waste too much time over.

Not to mention it'll stop OTM's revenue for people buying xp's.
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Re: Double XP bounty?

#24 by Aileron
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@aileron but how do they do a double experience weekend ie in 2012? Did that need a release? They had the small incremental releases back than so maybe that was it.

But I don't care how they do it just what they do and if it takes a release then so be it. And of course I know that would be unlikely.

Still as I said it is only part of the celebration and nice to have.
Double XP on mobs meant 8x XP using elixirs. If it happens again today, it'll be 10x as folks have Heroic Knowledge Elixirs on stock.
It was just a simple restart as I said, there's no need to change anything except 1 value in the database - the XP multiplier.
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Re: Double XP bounty?

#25 by _elsroth
@Aileron,

I think what landoril was saying was that elixirs have no effect on the double/quadrupled xp'd mobs. So killing a 4* mob would give 46k xp and killing it on a heroic/super would also give 46k xp.
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Re: Double XP bounty?

#26 by Aileron
@Aileron,

I think what landoril was saying was that elixirs have no effect on the double/quadrupled xp'd mobs. So killing a 4* mob would give 46k xp and killing it on a heroic/super would also give 46k xp.
That's what he is suggesting. But that's not what happened in 2012. Elixirs quadrupled the double xp, making it 8x on SKs.

@Landoril - each release now requires Apple Approval and people would have to download a new client from the App Store. So it's not going to be a mini-event but for the entire duration of the current seasonal release. Imagine 4x on mobs for 4-5 months!
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Re: Double XP bounty?

#27 by Zyz
Yes, getting twice as much of something is horrible. OTM just cancel the Event now so that these people don't feel wronged.

Smelly you have to be the most ungrateful person I have ever met on here.
Why is it when someone has a complaint you have to call them ungrateful. If players want to vent, let them vent.

And honestly this event is meh for some. I'm only doing bounties to get a pair of the top merc gloves. For the time it takes to complete all 6 bounties, I could lix for more xp. I'm not griping because it's double xp on bounties but it would be a lot better if it were double xp and all bounties were elite. If I want to do something for xp, I'll go lix. Now an awesome event would be all mobs give double xp.
If someone vents about something ridiculous then I'm gonna call them out on it.

No matter which way you twist it you cannot say that people who complain about this Event are not ungrateful. This isn't some new game mechanic or anything huge, this is some nice thing OTM was doing for us players.

If you're gonna ***** and moan that it "is not enough" then you don't deserve this Double XP and you can kindly shut your damn mouth because you show how much of an ungrateful kid you are.

You defend Smelly all you want Zyz, you could have PM'd me your issue.
I'm not defending smelly. And please don't be hypocritical and saying I could have pm my issue when you could have pm your issue about complaining to those that complain about complaining.

OTM makes a lot of changes. Some are good. Some are bad. Some are good for some people while a waste for others. There's nothing wrong with saying "this was ok but here's how I think it can be better."

As for the double xp bounty, it's great for those that want to do bounties as a source for xp. However, as someone that spends as less time as they can in the game, I want to get the most xp for my time when leveling. In this case, unless every bounty is an elite, it's more time effective for me and most others to just pop a lix. Now if every bounty had been an elite, it'd be super awesome.
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Re: Double XP bounty?

#28 by Plus3
Yes bounties are a huge waste of time for leveling unless you are 221+.

Further, with target lock on worlds who lock bosses, being much over 215 is a huge penalty. Leveling to 230 on those worlds just makes your toon useless at locking hrung Necro mord compared to lower levels.
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Re: Double XP bounty?

#29 by be0wulf
I fully agree that this event is not one that every player get the same chance to win and benefit from. It is not just an issue for those without enough pledges but more because how much u get out of it depends on luck. A Clanny got 1.2m XP from it because he was very lucky to get 2 elite and 2 seasonal bounties. Another clannny and I got all normal bounties and less than 30k XP from it. So Otm, is this your idea of a great event? Or is it your idea of a gambling event? I have every reason to complain given the grave disparity of how much players can benefit from this so called celebration event. Instead of a celebration of 5 years of CH, It makes some people upset because it is pure luck whether or not u actually benefit from the event. Give more intelligent thoughts when u decide on what kind of event u want to give to us. As a general rule, anything that depends on luck should not be touted as an event that all players will enjoy or get benefit out of. You can try to rationalise all your want how good this event is but I am sharing with u true upsetting experience of players because we have no luck to reap the benefit of such a great event. And don't tell me I should be grateful because I got 4K XP from each bounty instead of the normal 2k. I get less upset without the event and getting the normal 2k XP.

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Re: Double XP bounty?

#30 by Swan
A Clanny got 1.2m XP from it because he was very lucky to get 2 elite and 2 seasonal bounties. Another clannny and I got all normal bounties and less than 30k XP from it. So Otm, is this your idea of a great event? Or is it your idea of a gambling event? I have every reason to complain given the grave disparity of how much players can benefit from this so called celebration event.
I get the feeling that you're exaggerating this 1.2m vs 30k point immensely. Even if you had your clanny's luck, and got 2 elite and 2 seasonal bounties, would you have gotten 1.2m XP?

Unless there's some weird exception to the soft cap, even if you got 6 elites I'm pretty sure you would not break 1.2m XP.

Your level, 234 or 233 or whatever it is, means that any XP gain is already dramatically reduced, even for elites. So stop using misleading numbers, if you're over the soft cap, compare your unlucky XP gain to the lucky XP gain of someone with equal level.
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