Celtic Heroes

Otm release formula table:
1 week=3-4 weeks
1 month= 2 and a half months plus a week to fix all the server lag that is caused (every time)
Releasing soon: soon=2-3 months + a week for lag
Beta= initial release - 2 months and 3 days to actually get it running

Please just stop lying to us and don't even tell us anything we're all hype for chests on like Friday and you just change it because you can't even fix a bug in a chest

Ty for that inside look of your offices rn. Didnt know it was your job to fight back when angry trolls talk crap, thought you were brought in to create a positive connection with payers on the forums.

In a more serious note, it would honestly be a better idea to push announced dates way after their actual in-office projected launch dates, which would help in averting these toxic threads/reactions. I forget where the cliche quote is from, but "Under-promise and over-deliver". If the beta/update comes out on the office projected date then AMAZING, everyone thought it wasnt ready for another month! If its delayed for a month then its still fine! It came out when you initially announced it predicting the delay anyhow. If it goes even past that... then yeesh, next time make the announced date even later.

Im not even mad about the push-back because its so expected at this point that its been a literal meme in all servers for years. Im just dissapointed that you personally have seemingly devolved into being 'savage' back to trolls rather than stern, collected, and above their maturity level, which is what got you so respected here in the first place

Otm release formula table:
1 week=3-4 weeks
1 month= 2 and a half months plus a week to fix all the server lag that is caused (every time)
Releasing soon: soon=2-3 months + a week for lag
Beta= initial release - 2 months and 3 days to actually get it running

Please just stop lying to us and don't even tell us anything we're all hype for chests on like Friday and you just change it because you can't even fix a bug in a chest

Ty for that inside look of your offices rn. Didnt know it was your job to fight back when angry trolls talk crap, thought you were brought in to create a positive connection with payers on the forums.

In a more serious note, it would honestly be a better idea to push announced dates way after their actual in-office projected launch dates, which would help in averting these toxic threads/reactions. I forget where the cliche quote is from, but "Under-promise and over-deliver". If the beta/update comes out on the office projected date then AMAZING, everyone thought it wasnt ready for another month! If its delayed for a month then its still fine! It came out when you initially announced it predicting the delay anyhow. If it goes even past that... then yeesh, next time make the announced date even later.

Im not even mad about the push-back because its so expected at this point that its been a literal meme in all servers for years. Im just dissapointed that you personally have seemingly devolved into being 'savage' back to trolls rather than stern, collected, and above their maturity level, which is what got you so respected here in the first place

sorry for such a small image, didn't feel like editing the size.

Otm release formula table:
1 week=3-4 weeks
1 month= 2 and a half months plus a week to fix all the server lag that is caused (every time)
Releasing soon: soon=2-3 months + a week for lag
Beta= initial release - 2 months and 3 days to actually get it running

Please just stop lying to us and don't even tell us anything we're all hype for chests on like Friday and you just change it because you can't even fix a bug in a chest

Ty for that inside look of your offices rn. Didnt know it was your job to fight back when angry trolls talk crap, thought you were brought in to create a positive connection with payers on the forums.

In a more serious note, it would honestly be a better idea to push announced dates way after their actual in-office projected launch dates, which would help in averting these toxic threads/reactions. I forget where the cliche quote is from, but "Under-promise and over-deliver". If the beta/update comes out on the office projected date then AMAZING, everyone thought it wasnt ready for another month! If its delayed for a month then its still fine! It came out when you initially announced it predicting the delay anyhow. If it goes even past that... then yeesh, next time make the announced date even later.

Im not even mad about the push-back because its so expected at this point that its been a literal meme in all servers for years. Im just dissapointed that you personally have seemingly devolved into being 'savage' back to trolls rather than stern, collected, and above their maturity level, which is what got you so respected here in the first place

Post of the week!
Dates and times need to be respected too.
Can't tell people you'll release something on a specific date then tell them it's delayed, it's okay if you told us we don't know when.
Trust level is too low to the point that no one should make plans on the promised dates...
I regret that I already sold my mount for the new update that was supposed to be out a while ago, and I suggest you to never plan ahead, esp when you're talking about CH

Otm release formula table:
1 week=3-4 weeks
1 month= 2 and a half months plus a week to fix all the server lag that is caused (every time)
Releasing soon: soon=2-3 months + a week for lag
Beta= initial release - 2 months and 3 days to actually get it running

Please just stop lying to us and don't even tell us anything we're all hype for chests on like Friday and you just change it because you can't even fix a bug in a chest

Ty for that inside look of your offices rn. Didnt know it was your job to fight back when angry trolls talk crap, thought you were brought in to create a positive connection with payers on the forums.

In a more serious note, it would honestly be a better idea to push announced dates way after their actual in-office projected launch dates, which would help in averting these toxic threads/reactions. I forget where the cliche quote is from, but "Under-promise and over-deliver". If the beta/update comes out on the office projected date then AMAZING, everyone thought it wasnt ready for another month! If its delayed for a month then its still fine! It came out when you initially announced it predicting the delay anyhow. If it goes even past that... then yeesh, next time make the announced date even later.

Im not even mad about the push-back because its so expected at this point that its been a literal meme in all servers for years. Im just dissapointed that you personally have seemingly devolved into being 'savage' back to trolls rather than stern, collected, and above their maturity level, which is what got you so respected here in the first place

I'm actually surprised Muldar hasn't completely snapped yet. I would have been fired from his job a long time ago!

Otm release formula table:
1 week=3-4 weeks
1 month= 2 and a half months plus a week to fix all the server lag that is caused (every time)
Releasing soon: soon=2-3 months + a week for lag
Beta= initial release - 2 months and 3 days to actually get it running

Please just stop lying to us and don't even tell us anything we're all hype for chests on like Friday and you just change it because you can't even fix a bug in a chest

Ty for that inside look of your offices rn. Didnt know it was your job to fight back when angry trolls talk crap, thought you were brought in to create a positive connection with payers on the forums.

In a more serious note, it would honestly be a better idea to push announced dates way after their actual in-office projected launch dates, which would help in averting these toxic threads/reactions. I forget where the cliche quote is from, but "Under-promise and over-deliver". If the beta/update comes out on the office projected date then AMAZING, everyone thought it wasnt ready for another month! If its delayed for a month then its still fine! It came out when you initially announced it predicting the delay anyhow. If it goes even past that... then yeesh, next time make the announced date even later.

Im not even mad about the push-back because its so expected at this point that its been a literal meme in all servers for years. Im just dissapointed that you personally have seemingly devolved into being 'savage' back to trolls rather than stern, collected, and above their maturity level, which is what got you so respected here in the first place

If you have issues with the way I post you are welcome to PM me and discuss it further. Though you appear to have misinterpreted my reply as hostile.

I give posts the level of respect they have earned, as you said yourself this is another post of an "angry trolls talk crap".
With the user accusing us of "lying" and implying we are incompetent for an issue that is non existent ("can't even fix a bug in a chest" when we have just consolidated its addition to a bug fix client) I provided a response I feel fitting of the OP. Sometimes even I like being lighthearted.

If you disagree to that you are welcome to but perhaps in future it would be better to provide your feedback privately instead of appearing as another 1 up an admin post (We do grow tired of those).

While I personally would love to give accurate dates, circumstances change, deadlines shift and issues occur. That is the nature of the games industry. As I have said MANY times in the past I hate giving misinformation but sometimes this can be outwith my control.

Delays happen, we are an indie team working damn hard on something we care about. When updates get delayed we too get frustrated and angry, we want to keep working on content not fixing complications.

(If this was just a vent post its cool, we are getting there ourselves in the office.)

Thanks

I'm actually surprised Muldar hasn't completely snapped yet. I would have been fired from his job a long time ago!

Otm release formula table:
1 week=3-4 weeks
1 month= 2 and a half months plus a week to fix all the server lag that is caused (every time)
Releasing soon: soon=2-3 months + a week for lag
Beta= initial release - 2 months and 3 days to actually get it running

Please just stop lying to us and don't even tell us anything we're all hype for chests on like Friday and you just change it because you can't even fix a bug in a chest

Ty for that inside look of your offices rn. Didnt know it was your job to fight back when angry trolls talk crap, thought you were brought in to create a positive connection with payers on the forums.

In a more serious note, it would honestly be a better idea to push announced dates way after their actual in-office projected launch dates, which would help in averting these toxic threads/reactions. I forget where the cliche quote is from, but "Under-promise and over-deliver". If the beta/update comes out on the office projected date then AMAZING, everyone thought it wasnt ready for another month! If its delayed for a month then its still fine! It came out when you initially announced it predicting the delay anyhow. If it goes even past that... then yeesh, next time make the announced date even later.

Im not even mad about the push-back because its so expected at this point that its been a literal meme in all servers for years. Im just dissapointed that you personally have seemingly devolved into being 'savage' back to trolls rather than stern, collected, and above their maturity level, which is what got you so respected here in the first place

Muldar is a doing a great job. He clearly said he was given a go ahead to post the release date of the chests and then the decision was revoked.
In my honest opinion although it sucks to have events like this postponed on the regular, OTM cannot just say they will release something in 4 weeks and then drop it out of nowhere, because those saving up for that moment would not be ready and would not buy plat in time.
Also just giving a bigger time frame which is easier to respect and stick to it even if the content is ready before is just a waste of time.
OTM is doing the right thing in releasing the content as soon as it is ready.
Yes I know I will get flamed for using the word ready because of the sketchy updates recently

Ty for that inside look of your offices rn. Didnt know it was your job to fight back when angry trolls talk crap, thought you were brought in to create a positive connection with payers on the forums.

In a more serious note, it would honestly be a better idea to push announced dates way after their actual in-office projected launch dates, which would help in averting these toxic threads/reactions. I forget where the cliche quote is from, but "Under-promise and over-deliver". If the beta/update comes out on the office projected date then AMAZING, everyone thought it wasnt ready for another month! If its delayed for a month then its still fine! It came out when you initially announced it predicting the delay anyhow. If it goes even past that... then yeesh, next time make the announced date even later.

Im not even mad about the push-back because its so expected at this point that its been a literal meme in all servers for years. Im just dissapointed that you personally have seemingly devolved into being 'savage' back to trolls rather than stern, collected, and above their maturity level, which is what got you so respected here in the first place

If you have issues with the way I post you are welcome to PM me and discuss it further. Though you appear to have misinterpreted my reply as hostile.

I give posts the level of respect they have earned, as you said yourself this is another post of an "angry trolls talk crap".
With the user accusing us of "lying" and implying we are incompetent for an issue that is non existent ("can't even fix a bug in a chest" when we have just consolidated its addition to a bug fix client) I provided a response I feel fitting of the OP. Sometimes even I like being lighthearted.

If you disagree to that you are welcome to but perhaps in future it would be better to provide your feedback privately instead of appearing as another 1 up an admin post (We do grow tired of those).

While I personally would love to give accurate dates, circumstances change, deadlines shift and issues occur. That is the nature of the games industry. As I have said MANY times in the past I hate giving misinformation but sometimes this can be outwith my control.

Delays happen, we are an indie team working damn hard on something we care about. When updates get delayed we too get frustrated and angry, we want to keep working on content not fixing complications.

(If this was just a vent post its cool, we are getting there ourselves in the office.)

Thanks

While parts of it were absolutely a sort of vent and I respect you taking on a difficult and toxic job, the core (middle section) of my post was genuine and I believe it can soothe tensions considerably within the player base as it is now, thank you for taking the time to reply

Is there any way y'all can resource some help from the hundreds or thousands of players who would like to help out OTM processes? I have seen volunteers shoulder a lot of burden for mmos

I think you should just release the update with all the bugs and then all the ones that just couldn't wait another week or 3 for a more polished update can get what they asked for.