Celtic Heroes

Um, just to give you a heads up conceal does work over lava I use it a lot on my group when heading to defeat Aggy and also it works while you in battle so when we fight aggy no one in our group attracts any mobs including druids so everyone is safe.

Um, just to give you a heads up conceal does work over lava I use it a lot on my group when heading to defeat Aggy and also it works while you in battle so when we fight aggy no one in our group attracts any mobs including druids so everyone is safe.

Marath Damane haven't defeated aggy yet... But yeah that is a good strategy to use, but the mobs still get attracted to the tank and then the un-expecting druid heals and the mob is ob the druid... That doesnt work out as much..l

Um, just to give you a heads up conceal does work over lava I use it a lot on my group when heading to defeat Aggy and also it works while you in battle so when we fight aggy no one in our group attracts any mobs including druids so everyone is safe.

Marath Damane haven't defeated aggy yet... But yeah that is a good strategy to use, but the mobs still get attracted to the tank and then the un-expecting druid heals and the mob is ob the druid... That doesnt work out as much..l

Yeah keep using Conceal during Aggy fight

Because these guys only work 2 days a week and are golfing the rest of the time.

With all the plat sales these guys are making, updates should be faster. It took them 3 months to make changes to mages and they could have changed those in a lunch hour.

Low ball figure.

Game center says there are over 200,000 players on CH.

I'll go low ball. Say 30,000 buy $5 in plat a month. That's $150,000.

Um, just to give you a heads up conceal does work over lava I use it a lot on my group when heading to defeat Aggy and also it works while you in battle so when we fight aggy no one in our group attracts any mobs including druids so everyone is safe.

Marath Damane haven't defeated aggy yet... But yeah that is a good strategy to use, but the mobs still get attracted to the tank and then the un-expecting druid heals and the mob is ob the druid... That doesnt work out as much..l

I play on 2 different servers I'm speaking of my clan Elementals not MarathDamane

Um, just to give you a heads up conceal does work over lava I use it a lot on my group when heading to defeat Aggy and also it works while you in battle so when we fight aggy no one in our group attracts any mobs including druids so everyone is safe.

Marath Damane haven't defeated aggy yet... But yeah that is a good strategy to use, but the mobs still get attracted to the tank and then the un-expecting druid heals and the mob is ob the druid... That doesnt work out as much..l

Yeah keep using Conceal during Aggy fight

I honestly perfer you use a Grand & Royal ring of Conceal, a ranger in each group casts conceal, 1st group only tanks and druids, and one ranger 2nd group dps 2 rangers and etc it works good.

All about team communication - meaning 1 ranger press 1 when he/she skill is almost ready to end, and the next ranger cast conceal till that next ranger can recast the skill.

Game center says there are over 200,000 players on CH.

I'll go low ball. Say 30,000 buy $5 in plat a month. That's $150,000.

You're numbers are way off.

Not a slam on you, my guess is that game centre is inaccurate or you misread it. Perhaps the game has been downloaded over 200,000 times? If that is the case, people with multiple devices, or who delete and re-install will skew the number.

I am also going to use second hand info, so I don't even know if I am correct... but there was a post recently where the guy looked up all world populations. It looked like the average world population was about 5000. There are 14 world servers, so that would put the total CH population at around 70,000.

That would be 70,000 characters... not players. Again, people with alts will skew the numbers, so if you are going to low ball guestimate, you would probably have to divide the 70,000 by your guess of how many characters the average player has... then guess how many buy $5 of plat per month.

Just a guess on a guess, but you used a 15% buyer rate. I'm gonna throw out the idea that the average player has 3 characters. That would give us about 23,000 players. 15% of that would be about 3500 people buying $5 of plat per month, which would be $17,500 in revenue.

I'm going to suggest that my numbers are a high ball estimate, and the 23,000 players is people who have played the game. It doesn't account for people who have quit the game irl, but are still in the online world population.

OTM has about 12 people working there if I recall... $17,500 is hardly enough to sustain a lifestyle of golf.

OTM has about 12 people working there if I recall... $17,500 is hardly enough to sustain a lifestyle of golf.

Seriously, if OTM was making $17,500 a month. They would be out of business. They wouldn't be able to switch forum service providers, get new offices and hire new people like they just did recently.

Yes that server info was from the Sulis is the best thread.

So lets take that. This is all logical conjecture of course. OTM won't release their plat sales, because in my honest opinion, if they did, we would riot on them. People spending upwards of $4000. Ridiculous.

So 5000 toons per 14 servers equals 70,000.

THIS GAME IS DESIGNED FOR PLAT. Killing bosses requires plat items. Whether that person obtained it in game or whatever, someone actually bought plat to put that item into play. Using tons of pots and idols to kill bosses may seem small but when you add it all up, it amounts to huge.

Say 10,000 of those are "ACTUAL" players and not alts or multi devices or whatever.

So 10,000 buys a minimum $5 a month. Equals $50,000. That is my low estimate.

This is very easy to do. When you charge $5 on your itunes account, one does not think about it. Its like in Canada. When you use an ATM machine that is not your banks, your bank charges you $1.00. Your in a hurry so you do it. But if 20,000 people do that across Canada within the same hour, the bank just made an easy $20,000.

Same with CH. $5 to buy 60 plat for alt book, potions and idols. Your thinking no big deal whats $5.

I hope no one feels "sorry" and how poor OTM is doing. I think the opposite. These guys are raking it in, just from seeing how the game operates and how plat is integrated into the game.

Also the work week in North America is set at 40 hours.
So let's hypothesize again.

12 guys working 40 hours a week. That comes to 480 hours a week. Times 4 weeks. Equals a whopping 1920 hours per month.

This game is SMALL. Were not talking World of Warcraft, Dragon Age, or even Skyrim size.

And the best "update" these guys could do is flying clouds and more f#$@@ hat picking.

I just hope that we as the game user don't end up as suckers and OTM playing us for fools.

Like I said in my other posts. If I could sell my account I would dump CH and go strictly O/C. If OTM turns a blind eye to account sharing then why can't I sell my account? But that's another topic which has been discussed.

Seriously, if OTM was making $17,500 a month. They would be out of business. They wouldn't be able to switch forum service providers, get new offices and hire new people like they just did recently.

I technically agree, but you are forgetting the big picture. I suspect that CH is a passion for them... which is turning into a branch of their business. Their website says they have been creating content for 11 years. They are no doubt a successful business/company. However, at a year and a half, the snowball of CH is only begun. Many companies who launch a new product will be in the red on that particular project for the first year at least.

Remember that OTM isn't solely CH. They create apps for Nissan, Honda, Visa, etc., and also apparently have a "real money online games and casino products." My belief is that they were a decent company making money by creating corporate content, they started a pet project, and it is starting to turn well for them.

My $17,500 number is only based on CH plat sales... not total company revenue. I don't think the company is going bust by any means.

It's obviously very hard to ballpark what they pull in in plat sale. I think your guestimate of 50 grand is FAR too high, but at least I brought you down from your original estimate I'll concede that my 18 grand might be low, though I don't believe so. You have to agree, though, that whatever the number is, it is the current number. There is no way CH was profitable in the first 6 months (at least). There wouldn't have been the player base.

I agree with you completely on the "easy to buy 5 bucks" theory, and your ATM example was apt. I think you are really overshooting on your 10,000 people buying at least 5 bucks theory. I doubt there are that many people buying plat monthly, even if averaged.

Yep, thou we'll never know for sure.

If this company sold shares their quarterly's and yearly financial statements would be made available for all to see.

Then you can make an informed decision on whether they are overcharging or not.