Celtic Heroes

The problem is the level penalty is something that can easily be manipulated by using alts, something that dominant clans can easily level and gear. Small secondary clans have a much harder time because they most of them are still leveling their mains and can't gear or afford to make lock alts that are nearly as effective. If secondary clans want to keep the bosses that they can lock on, they have to halt their progression into edl and endgame, if they progress to endgame they lose those bosses that they could lock. Level lock is a double edged sword, hurting small clan's forward progression and hurting a large clan's inflow of gear for newer members. There is no real way to fix this, it will always hurt both sides, which is pretty much what makes it fair. Drops are a problem though, i see improving those rates or removing anything below royal as a way to give small clans better gear in just a few kills and would drastically decrease the amount of banked items for large clans. Sure, a royal necro totem ring or imperial light heal ring is still going to get banked, but at least we won't be getting majestic poison weapon rings or mighty curse rings. Just my opinion however, so feel free to disagree.

There is no real way to fix this, it will always hurt both sides, which is pretty much what makes it fair.

How could you think it's fair? I've said many times, not just on this thread or in another but also in the past, lower level clans and higher level clans shouldn't be fighting over the same bosses. That is simply bad game design.

There is no real way to fix this, it will always hurt both sides, which is pretty much what makes it fair.

How could you think it's fair? I've said many times, not just on this thread or in another but also in the past, lower level clans and higher level clans shouldn't be fighting over the same bosses. That is simply bad game design.

Good point, you shouldn't have to rely on a boss 40 levels below you. What do you recommend otm does to fix this though? Add new and better drops than what we currently have from hrung/mord/necro? Essentially making those bosses obsolete for endgame? That's all i can think of that would make endgame clans stop killing them, and even then they wouldn't stop for months at least. Not intending to be rude, just curious as to what would fix the problem.

There is no real way to fix this, it will always hurt both sides, which is pretty much what makes it fair.

How could you think it's fair? I've said many times, not just on this thread or in another but also in the past, lower level clans and higher level clans shouldn't be fighting over the same bosses. That is simply bad game design.

Good point, you shouldn't have to rely on a boss 40 levels below you. What do you recommend otm does to fix this though? Add new and better drops than what we currently have from hrung/mord/necro? Essentially making those bosses obsolete for endgame? That's all i can think of that would make endgame clans stop killing them, and even then they wouldn't stop for months at least. Not intending to be rude, just curious as to what would fix the problem.

I'm not sure about other servers, but we stopped killing Aggy a long time ago. When we kept banking his loot because we get better rings, spears, and bracelets from Mordris (and hrung bracers/skulls), we knew we've gone past that boss.

It's really just about being able to progress. The problem is there are no replacements for hrung skulls, or hrung caster helms. mordris helms and caster bracers are still considered endgame items.

Gelebron bracers should be changed to rings. It would've been an awesome upgrade to Mordris rings. Proteus bracers should be changed so they can replace Mordris bracers for 220+ players. Cooldown reduction items should drop from Proteus/Gelebron so we don't have to keep killing Necro. Bow/Dagger and other ability rings should also be dropping from higher level bosses.

OTM should make it so that there is no point for higher level clans to farm lower level bosses. Just as they did to Aggy, they should do the same to Hrung/Mordy/Necro.

Until those clans all reach 220+ on all characters, Mord/hrung/necro will never be obsolete because you can always gear your lower level alt or a clannies alt.

Introducing new bosses that are 210+ would definitely help, to a certain extent, it won't fix the issue entirely though. There isn't much incentive bos wise for end gamers because you can only kill Gelebron 2x a week and proteus every day. What do you do with the rest of that time? Camp other bosses, level an alt with OP gear etc.

If there were more bosses, with enhanced versions of necro, hrung, mord drops, end gamers would most likely camp those more often and not worry as much about the 'lesser' bosses.

I mean, apart from fire and ice, Aggy still drops the best lure rings... that's pretty sad when a level 150 boss still has rings that a 215+ mage needs/uses.

Until those clans all reach 220+ on all characters, Mord/hrung/necro will never be obsolete because you can always gear your lower level alt or a clannies alt.

Introducing new bosses that are 210+ would definitely help, to a certain extent, it won't fix the issue entirely though. There isn't much incentive bos wise for end gamers because you can only kill Gelebron 2x a week and proteus every day. What do you do with the rest of that time? Camp other bosses, level an alt with OP gear etc.

If there were more bosses, with enhanced versions of necro, hrung, mord drops, end gamers would most likely camp those more often and not worry as much about the 'lesser' bosses.

I mean, apart from fire and ice, Aggy still drops the best lure rings... that's pretty sad when a level 150 boss still has rings that a 215+ mage needs/uses.

People only make alts because target lock forced us to. I didn't make an alt that stays at 150 so we can keep killing Aggy. No one did.

Upcoming alts or new members simply inherit old gear. We pass old Aggy gear around we no longer use for our mains.

Having them become unbound was also a tremendous help, we don't have to keep killing bosses to replace bound gear that we lost to members who quit.

No one says Gelebron and Proteus are the final two bosses in the game. The have plenty of raid bosses on hand. I wish they just changed the legacy bosses to better bosses with better loot rather than respawning them as dumb down versions of the event bosses.

I don't mean alts just for level locking, but because one gets bored with their class due to slowwwww progression. I have one of every class. It's what keeps me sane in this game. Not all end game though.

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I'm not attacking Avalon, and Aileron didnt have a problem with my points. Im stating that you may represent the exact reason why OTM implemented target lock in the first place, and it shouldnt be abolished.

You heard the man, Muldar! Load up some DG armor, a Gele wand and a couple of those new super duper rings place them on a spoon and fly them into my mouth like an airplane.

Aeslyn
Havoc

Ok maybe I did say there something about not caring, but if I truely didn't care I wouldn't of wasted my time during the reset the other day running back and fourth between bosses competing against your clan. If like others have said gele and prot dropped upgraded versions of the gear that mordy/hrung/necro drops then sure I wouldn't care.

Phantom got LIT bro, he is mad his lockers aren't as good, why would he want level lock to go if he has lockers of his own? Sad part is you guys were sharing accounts for level lock before the other competing clan made level lockers! You got lit now drink some warm milk and go night night

Phantom watching his own post get trashed