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Re: An Insight on Class Inequality: Rangers vs. Rogues

#342
Mmm I still believe rogues should be the highest dps class... Let's just go through the list of classes and see why that class is special I guess
Warrior-Kinda obvious, class has the ability to have high hp/armour/agroing
Druid-Maily healing and buffing with the option of semi-dmg
Mage-i would say a mixture of damage/debuffing/buffing
Ranger-I would relate this class somewhat to a warrior than any other, this class is meant for survivability for themselves and those around them while still dealing good damage
Rogue-As we all know, damage Kings... Either long battles or short battles, rogues usually get the kill on most bosses

Now, just think about it... If rogues didn't have the highest damage in the game, who would want to play it? Rogues literally offer no attributes to anyone but themselves (with the exception of poison Weps I guess, which blows in the tower :D).. They have a self-healing skill, a self-defense skill, a skill that takes the agro off of them and puts it on anyone else, a self-camo... You can't really help anyone as a rogue, so no one makes a rogue for that reason, they make rogues for damage, usually in short bursts...... If they did take SS out or needed QS more or anything, rogues are usually pointless... Idk why people are so pissed about that lol, one class has to be the highest dps, and all other classes have other main bonuses, so it defo should be the rogue that's strongest
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Re: An Insight on Class Inequality: Rangers vs. Rogues

#343
Its nice how u covered warrior have only a single role and no sub role in 3 different words, considering warriors has lowest basic aggro gain, u could simply said tanking.
Druid can heal, buff and debuff (I dont include their 'dps')
Mages dps and debuff
Rogues highest dps and debuff
Rangers dps and debuffs, the heal and buff I dont truly consider, but feel free to call them healers.
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Re: An Insight on Class Inequality: Rangers vs. Rogues

#344
Have you even played rogue? They do have a few damage skills but you rated some skills at 5 that are useless. Like poison weapon. No rogue in their right mind would use that skill since the rogue nerf. Shadow strike is useful for leveling but almost completely useless at bosses because it misses so much and they damage was nurfed way to much. You want Rangers to outdps rogues. In my clan the kills are pretty even mages Rangers and rogues get kills but rogues and mages should be primary dps because that is their role. Rangers do really good damage too but they are jack of all trades masters of none. I do agree Rangers need a buff but not damage. They need a buff to make them jack of all trades again. Lightheal isn't good enough for high level Rangers to use anymore. If Rangers get buffed combined with rogues debuff it will make rogues become secondary dps which defys their use. Rogues are not the best for support anyway. In our clan we use one support rogue and we are good the rest are dps.
It feels more like jack of no trades. What level is your ranger again? We need SKILL damage buffs, because currently no end game rangers use ANY of the damage skills. Coincidence?
Then ranger i play on is level 190 and it has full dl including weps at every necro fight so far the ranger group has won the lock due to dl quivers skill and the Rangers high auto dps over there rogue counterparts when rogues don't have ss this goes to show that if u take away rogues top skill we become secondary dps and who the **** wants to be a rogue if we aren't even top dps
Regardless of your account sharing and ToS breaking tendencies it helps when you can understand the mechanics of the boss fight. Necro is an exception to ranger dps considering ranged attackers are the main one's actually hitting the boss and it's ridiculous aoe. As many have said already, nowhere does it say that rogues should be the top dps role in this game. The rogue is sneaky and cunning with surprise attacks from the shadows and siphoning skills. Not an all out barrage of instant cast/locking burst skills.
Albericus of Herne
Lazydrunks founder
Ranger skills still broken...

Re: An Insight on Class Inequality: Rangers vs. Rogues

#347
Alb, read what I posted above.... If rogues AREN'T the top dps, what is the actual point of the class? Please give a direct answer to that question, thx
The rogue is sneaky and cunning with surprise attacks from the shadows and siphoning skills. Not an all out barrage of instant cast/locking burst skills.
Albericus of Herne
Lazydrunks founder
Ranger skills still broken...

Re: An Insight on Class Inequality: Rangers vs. Rogues

#350
Ranger is the master of self-survivability (and while their at it they can do a pretty damn good job at keeping others alive too)... Even with all of warriors hp and armour, they need to be kept up by something.
If u would read this thread a little better, u would realize rogues are better at it too. Also, in every game rogue and ranger have equal dps, their ways of unleashing their dps is different, ranger from afar, rogue from the shadows. Here..... Rogues are more straightforward than barbarians in other games.


EDIT : Rogue is actually the only class that doesnt fullfill his role. Rogues' role isnt top DPS, its being sneaky and stealthy and attacking from the shadows, show me a single rogue whos being sneaky (sneaky attack my a$$) or attacking from shadows (SHADOWstrike my a$$ just as well) or one that is stealthy and uses Hide (although hes completely visible).
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