Celtic Heroes

Cmon folks let's be real here.

Since rangers can use knucks , warriors don't stand a chance against them dps wise and this only makes a difference at high levels with excellent gear .

When I leveled my warrior as dps using my rangers gear+frozen sword he was absolutely badass in the dps department , would beat out anyone regardless of class that didn't have the same type of sick damage gear as I do.

Warrior does do good dps if he is equipped to do so , it's all about the gear and speed of weapon .

Honestly I hope they do something with 2 hand weapons to make them more viable than they are now .

Let's not all fall for the nonsense of warriors can't do damage , they can it's just those complaining about it want warriors to be a god class .

I disagree, dragon armour should make a class extremely overpowered at their class specialty, other builds should require different armour

Or just do a year round event boss that drops upped dps gear so every class can have it again and dun get rid of it. Like spawn dragons once a week?

Lol that is a very bad idea and is starting to stray off topic from the Op

-shakes Pig's hand, or hoof- if you promise not to reply after my post about this subject then I won't and we call a truce. :s

Aileron responded to my point well when he said this game is simple and hasn't evolved to the point where we can branch off.

EVERY CLASS should be able to have a viable DPS path. Yes, rogue should have the top ceiling, but there should be a way for warriors to trade off their armor for a more DPS build. The game is making more soloable areas and all classes should be able to take advantage of this. People are saying warriors have such great armor and skills that make them hard to kill, and that shouldn't be combined with great DPS. These people are right! In other games when a warrior chooses to go DPS, he loses armor and the abilities that make him a great tank. There just has to be a tradeoff or it isn't fair. I'm hoping admin starts to think about this and develop different paths that every class can take.

DPS classes seem to be threatened by this because they are so linear. Like I stated, rogues should always have the #1 DPS potential, but they need more depth as well. In Order and Chaos rogue and ranger are the same class, and you have to specialize in either close or long ranged combat. I think it would be cool if rogue could eventually use ranged weapons like crossbows, but never have the mastery of it that a ranger can. Rangers should be ranged right? Well right now their best dps comes through knuckleblades Let them have the ability to quick switch to better close ranged items that can turn the tide of the battle for them when bolas runs out. For example give them the staff ability and create a staff that is used for defensive purposes as a hunter would do in a real situation.

Im pretty sure the new bone armor and weps will be better than radiant, as a lot of people said WK weps were OP then were stunned to see that diamond weps and new lux offhands made them so much better. Good games always evolve and allow better items. If you see people using armor from a year ago when a new update has happened and they maxed it out, the game has failed immensely.

To stay directly on topic, I think the all the dragon armor should be better than radiant, for example just in terms of chest armor damage:
Warriors 150 fire damage
Druids 150 fire damage
Mage Firebolt spell power increase by 300
Rogue 300 fire damage
Ranger 200 fire damage

While that is OP now, the new content should be a LOT harder.

Every ****** post about warriors turns into Fromen against the world.

Fromen, no one else thinks like you.. Not even other warriors! Everyone has seen your point and no one agrees with it. Warriors should not be a DPS class, leave it to Rangers and Rogues. Warriors armour should be as effective to them as damage is to rogues? I believe it is. Wyverns hit my rogue for 300-400 per hit in frozen. They hit my warrior clanny for 150-200 per hit on average, how the hell is that not a big difference? 100-200 per hit.. that's 1-2k damage extra, dealt on my rogue over 10 hits.

You're too single-minded Fromen and IMO, you are a selfish player, in it for yourself. Make a rogue, level it, and then you can be DPS. Turn your warrior into hybrid or tank because a DPS warrior ain't worth ****. Just stop ruining everyone else's topics with your stupid and ridiculous posts.

By the way, a full vit Warrior with my Radiant and damage rings, can out dps my DPS build rogue in Frozen. Theirs not THAT much difference apart from gear, just most Rogues and Rangers are equipped with Earthstone as they hit faster than warriors.

Read the op title. Read the op initial post , we are talking maybe the final armor in the game , and the warriors armor should not have any damage if all others do ? Only armor base stats and defence stats ?

Ok let the final warrior armor have non-damage at all , fine make a defence/armor only whatever ..... Inception armor within armor .

Have you ever try your warrior base armor without add it damage just the regular strength to weapon conversion.... If compare apple to orange will never be the same but if you do compare apple to apples you will se meaning small diference.

So if rogues armor add 300 pierce damage
Mage. Elemental to damage spell 250
Druid elemental to damage spell 250
And ranger to adds. 250 pierce damage
And warriors. 1000 armor and 1000 hp its ok with you fine

I don't wanna see straight elemental damage on Dragonscale. I think it's got to be some elemental and some melee (pierce/crush/slash).

Pierce/crush/slash is variable depending on your stats, elemental damage isn't.

Where are you getting that from Fro?

ROGUES AND RANGERS ARMOUR SHOULD BE BETTER THAN RADIANT FOR DPS. Warriors Dragonscale should offer some damage, but shouldn't out-do Radiant.

Warriors should be able to do some damage but not compare. You expect and want too much Fromen. You want warriors to rival the dps of rogues and rangers which is insane.. It's same old thing every post, you trying to defend your opinions that no one else agrees with.

In a related topic , rapid shot and quiver to melee will be fix it i the expasion.

So rapid shot will only work with spear/bow

I disagree, dragon armour should make a class extremely overpowered at their class specialty, other builds should require different armour

I don't disagree about dragon armor making a class over powered at their class specialty. That's why I gave the example I did to show that with added bonus would make their class very good at their specialty. Rogues is speed and stealth, rangers is long range attacks, mage is nukes (which is what lures do), warrior is tanks, and druid is healing.

For example rogues add 250 damage and a speed bonus to their full dragonscale armor. Rangers add 200 damage and a defence (or dex) and attack bonus to their full dragonscale armor, mages add 150 damage and a fire and ice lure bonus to their full dragonscale, warriors add 150 damage and an armor boost to their full dragonscale, and Druids add 125 and a healing bonus to their full dragonscale armor.

But I am accurate when I say that all classes can do damage and yes some better than others. There is no class that can do faster damage than rogues (rangers come close with their skill), no class can fight long range like rangers can, no class can hit as hard and powerful like mages can, no class can tank as good as warriors can, no class can heal as good as druids can. Every class can truly be a good dps so I think it would be fair for classes to still be able to choose end game armor whether they want to be dps or their class specialty. I have frozen gear and I never use it. Just don't want dragon armor to be the same