Celtic Heroes

OTM server hosting, unity engine license fees, developer salaries, office space rental, etc... don't pay themselves. There needs to be a cash flow for there to be a game, it's the way the real world economy is set up. That said, CH is about the least pay to play/win mmo game I've seen. FFS, some games you can only get the best end game equips from purchased chests. I don't think binding raid drops to the person they land on is the answer, so there really is no way to stop trading. I think there is a good balance between plat items/ trading/ alternative methods of leveling.

There isn't a boss that requires plat to win provided you have enough players, have good teamwork, and don't need to lock battle. They even fixed spring of life so it's mildly useful. But with a messy lock fight that looks like a herd of cats zerging a lawnmower, it turns into pay to win.

Pay to win means that without paying you wouldn't be able to beat the game. In mmorpg beating the game essentially means killing the eg boss/getting its good gear. Without heroic lixes idols and restos which are obtainable through SOMEONE buying plat, you wouldn't be able to kill the eg boss and therefore not be able to "win" the game. It's not so hard to understand gb15. Maybe if you were eg

Beta would be the time to put the theory to the test that proteus and gele can be killed with 0 plat items. Anything is possible in theory. And would the server remain lag free enough to make a kill possible with that many players logged on in one area.

I'm also wondering if plat items had never been introduced, would everyone that has lixed to 215+ leveled that high without lix. If enough people would have said no way it's too much grind without lix, restos, idols, etc to level and you never had enough people then wouldn't that lend the game to being pay to win?

Clearly you haven't "won" the game by beating the eg boss. If u even experienced gele you'd understand how costly it is.

Beta would be the time to put the theory to the test that proteus and gele can be killed with 0 plat items. Anything is possible in theory. And would the server remain lag free enough to make a kill possible with that many players logged on in one area.

I'm also wondering if plat items had never been introduced, would everyone that has lixed to 215+ leveled that high without lix. If enough people would have said no way it's too much grind without lix, restos, idols, etc to level and you never had enough people then wouldn't that lend the game to being pay to win?

If plat items were never introduced this game would have never made it passed the stonevale update, perhaps even earlier updates and otm would be long gone. This game would be a pay to win if all items from chests/plat shop were no trade, bounty board/shop never existed, raids never existed and lux was the only good jewelry available, took ages to gain one level, took ages to get 100k, and if fishing never existed... Aka when the game was released. Since then, otm pretty much tackled all of those problems and to this very day they continue to do so which is why this game is not a pay to win.

Clearly you haven't "won" the game by beating the eg boss. If u even experienced gele you'd understand how costly it is.

Clearly you don't know what "pay to win" means. If you had experience with other games that are pay to win, you'd understand that celtic heroes is no where near a pay to win