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New loot table. (being patched tomorrow)

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:48 pm
by BLRD-7
So.. New loot table from Admin
OK we will sort this out for the next patch, we will change it to this: harder 6 star bosses will always drops 2 crests, 2 orbs, 1 ring. Easier 6 star bosses will always drop 1 crest, 1 orb, 1 ring. The placeholders will remain the same so if you do need spare banes, consumables or orbs you can just get them from there.

This way everyone is guaranteed crests and orbs each time a 6 star boss is killed, but the world won't be overrun with 100's of orbs or consumables that nobody wants.
So heres the thing.. Our clan and I'm sure many others, are already over-run with orbs, meaning we don't need any extra. However, the problem is...

New clans and new people taking bosses that don't already have a stash of orbs are going to struggle. You effectively need 2-5 orbs per crest for each crest. (4 for gloves, 9 for weapon). So really it should go up in orb drops per boss..

All-Seeing: 2 orb, 1 crest, 1ring
All-Knowing: 4 orb, 2 crest, 1ring
Swamp Lord: 2 orb, 1 crest, 1ring
Swamp King: 5 orb, 2crest, 1ring
Woodcrown: 3 orb, 1 crest, 1ring
Gnarlroot: 6 orb, 2 crest, 1ring
Chained King: 3 orb, 1 crest, 1ring
Chained Emporer: 7 orb, 2 crest, 1ring
Grommak: 4 orb, 1 crest, 1ring
Ragnok: 8 orb, 1 crest, 1ring
Pyrus: 4 orb, 1 crest, 1ring
Ignus: 9 orb, 2 crest, 1ring

This is the only way I see the crest:orb ratio staying equal for future purposes, and as previously said.. Maybe make orbs sellable to shop for 500-1k each.

I know it seems like the top harder bosses may drop too much.. (Ragnok and Ignus for example) but that's how many orbs are needed per crests.

Re: New loot table. (being patched tomorrow)

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:03 pm
by Man1536
Seems good the harder the better not just two groups

Re: New loot table. (being patched tomorrow)

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:08 pm
by Aileron
So heres the thing.. Our clan and I'm sure many others, are already over-run with orbs, meaning we don't need any extra. However, the problem is...

New clans and new people taking bosses that don't already have a stash of orbs are going to struggle. You effectively need 2-5 orbs per crest for each crest. (4 for gloves, 9 for weapon). So really it should go up in orb drops per boss..
The placeholders will drop orbs too. Let's face it, there will be a lot more placeholders than bosses. It should be okay.

Re: New loot table. (being patched tomorrow)

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:14 pm
by SXC
How about make orbs no-trade? That way you'll actually have to participate in kills to get your armor.

Re: New loot table. (being patched tomorrow)

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:18 pm
by Marshill
it is fine the way admin has it set up. that means there will be 3 random drops on harder bosses and 5 random drops on lower bosses. That will work out.

Re: New loot table. (being patched tomorrow)

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:26 pm
by BLRD-7
it is fine the way admin has it set up. that means there will be 3 random drops on harder bosses and 5 random drops on lower bosses. That will work out.
It's guarenteed 1 orb per crest.. That is not equal for new people, and they will be way behind with orbs. I didn't think about the PH's but that's still say, 7 orbs from PHs for 1 weapon.

Re: New loot table. (being patched tomorrow)

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:28 pm
by BLRD-7
And as I said previously, this is with new people in mind.. We already have way too many orbs.

Re: New loot table. (being patched tomorrow)

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:35 pm
by Aileron
it is fine the way admin has it set up. that means there will be 3 random drops on harder bosses and 5 random drops on lower bosses. That will work out.
It's guarenteed 1 orb per crest.. That is not equal for new people, and they will be way behind with orbs. I didn't think about the PH's but that's still say, 7 orbs from PHs for 1 weapon.
So what if you have to kill 8 ph for orbs for a frozen weapon? It's already easy enough with just 2 crest requirement.

Re: New loot table. (being patched tomorrow)

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:37 pm
by aleph
*casts Calm on BLDR-7*

I feel like I'm channeling Teaweasel here but how about we tone down the "OMFG the sky is falling because even though this patch is an improvement it doesn't do exactly what I want change things pls thx bai!!!1one!! And oh yeah before I forget, [my class] is totally nerfed by this patch and [other class] is totally OP now so put things back the way they were except for [long list of requests] that favours [my class]." and maybe, just maybe try playing the patch a bit and see if it improves the situation. And if there are still problems, then you can turn on the nerd rage after actually playing the patch.

I mean really, OTM is getting some pretty mixed signals from some of us:
  • OMG the game is totally wrecked. We need a patch
  • OMG there's gonna be a patch. The game is gonna be totally wrecked
One of these days they're just going to block us the way we block group/friend/trade spammers.

Re: New loot table. (being patched tomorrow)

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:49 pm
by BLRD-7
*casts Calm on BLDR-7*

I feel like I'm channeling Teaweasel here but how about we tone down the "OMFG the sky is falling because even though this patch is an improvement it doesn't do exactly what I want change things pls thx bai!!!1one!! And oh yeah before I forget, [my class] is totally nerfed by this patch and [other class] is totally OP now so put things back the way they were except for [long list of requests] that favours [my class]." and maybe, just maybe try playing the patch a bit and see if it improves the situation. And if there are still problems, then you can turn on the nerd rage after actually playing the patch.

I mean really, OTM is getting some pretty mixed signals from some of us:
  • OMG the game is totally wrecked. We need a patch
  • OMG there's gonna be a patch. The game is gonna be totally wrecked
One of these days they're just going to block us the way we block group/friend/trade spammers.
Dude wtf are you on??? Did you even read the whole topic? What a dumb ass comment.

I did not rage once.. Infact, I'm very chilled. My argument (constructive criticism) is to help improve, I'm not saying OMG IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, or anything like that.. My clan has more than enough Orbs. I'm simply saying for new members that don't have a large stash like my clan, or Aileron or Marshills clan.. Orbs are going to be a problem.

Please read and understand the topic, before getting in your head you are going to try to make a smart ass comment that really offers nothing to the situation. Those that did post relevantly.. Thankyou.