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OTM camo charm scandal

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I am dissapointed in aggro ranges. How does my level 116 rogue attract aggro from level 80 druids from a distance far greater than the aggro range of a level 80 in update 2? It's like rubbing it in the faces of those who did not buy a camo charm! And yeah, I have one on my warrior.

Wow....Mabye this is the whole problem. OTM "baited and switched" the aggro after they stopped letting you buy a camo charm! They made the camo charm OP after they removed it!

Did the aggro radius of mobs get changed like Sir Blaze333 suggests?

If so, this is the entire problem.

EDIT: I never question OTM's leadership intentions. I am 100% confident that they are always good (I actually believe this I'm not trying to suck up). HOWEVER I do think huge problems and injustice like this can creep in unintentionally.

I will always take a stand for the victim no matter what.

Definition of scandal: 1.An action or event regarded as morally or legally wrong and causing general public outrage

I think this qualifies.
Last edited by mdimarco on Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:11 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: OTM camo charm scandal?

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Uhhh yah!

Lol, after the last update, they improved the agro range in all of SV.

I made a topic immediately after, but since its been like a half a year and they haven't dont anything, i doubt they will.
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Re: OTM camo charm scandal?

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Meant to make a new topic for this, but oh well.

If they were removing it for it being ''Overpowered'' why did they change it to a slot which makes it even more valuble and stronger? Now a player can use 2 OP necklaces like the Radiant Earthstone Necklace and The Camo Charm.

If they intended to remove an item for it being too strong, why did they feel the need to change the stats of the items and the part of the game it was affecting?
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Lol It's not my first time bringing it up but thanks for taking it seriously.

I remember being able to walk right up to deadroot (level 100) without getting aggro back when my rogue (level 86ish) equipped the charm. Now, even with the charm, I get aggro when I get close enough to mobs at a lower level than me on my warrior.

I do believe that this is the problem.
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#5
I think it was all planned out way long ago
Take them out so ppl claim they op
Then rise up aggo so ppl want them so bad

Then bring them back in Halloween event!!!
ALL WE GO CRAZY AND BUY 8 of them lol
Well probebly not the same one but could be ring
Or a suxy main hand wep that has camo so yea ....
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Ok well this is a scandal then.

The reason there has been thousands of posts about camo charms is because of this very scandal.

I know OTM's intentions were right but lets look at the facts:

1. aggro was a certain way
2. camo charms that reduce aggro were introduced
3. camo charms were removed at the same time the aggro was changed.
4. Camo charms usefulness was changed when it is no longer possible to reevaluate the decision to get or not to get the charm.

This is a new type of fraud called "un-bait and switch". You provide a product that solves a problem. Not everyone buys the product because the problem isn't that bad. Then you remove the product that solves the problem and make the problem worse at the same time. Then when the product is needed even more because the problem was made worse, the product has been discontinued.
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Re: OTM camo charm scandal?

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Ok well this is a scandal then.

The reason there has been thousands of posts about camo charms is because of this very scandal.

I know OTM's intentions were right but lets look at the facts:

1. aggro was a certain way
2. camo charms that reduce aggro were introduced
3. camo charms were removed at the same time the aggro was changed.
4. Camo charms usefulness was changed when it is no longer possible to reevaluate the decision to get or not to get the charm.

This is a new type of fraud called "un-bait and switch". You provide a product that solves a problem. Not everyone buys the product because the problem isn't that bad. Then you remove the product that solves the problem and make the problem worse at the same time. Then when the product is needed even more because the problem was made worse, the product has been discontinued.
What are you talking about...? It's just the druids pretty much don't care about camo charms. If your a certian level arggo zone decreases, although druids arggo zone doesn't seem to shrink. It's very useful in OW though. I don't understand what your trying to say.
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Ok well this is a scandal then.

The reason there has been thousands of posts about camo charms is because of this very scandal.

I know OTM's intentions were right but lets look at the facts:

1. aggro was a certain way
2. camo charms that reduce aggro were introduced
3. camo charms were removed at the same time the aggro was changed.
4. Camo charms usefulness was changed when it is no longer possible to reevaluate the decision to get or not to get the charm.

This is a new type of fraud called "un-bait and switch". You provide a product that solves a problem. Not everyone buys the product because the problem isn't that bad. Then you remove the product that solves the problem and make the problem worse at the same time. Then when the product is needed even more because the problem was made worse, the product has been discontinued.
What are you talking about...? It's just the druids pretty much don't care about camo charms. If your a certian level arggo zone decreases, although druids arggo zone doesn't seem to shrink. It's very useful in OW though. I don't understand what your trying to say.
The aggro range on all mobs increased. This can be seen by comparing aggro ranges before and after the update with and without a camo charm.

The camo charm decreases aggro range by a percentage, which means the larger the ranger, the more the camo protects you but the farther away you must remain without being attacked.

What's happening is that since the aggro ranges have increased, the more important camo charms are. But aggro was never as big of a deal as it is now so there was not really a reason to buy it in the first place. Since they removed the charms at the same time as they increased aggro range, there is no chance for people to buy what is now required and there was no warning that aggro ranges would be increased.
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#10
The aggro range on all mobs increased. This can be seen by comparing aggro ranges before and after the update with and without a camo charm.

The camo charm decreases aggro range by a percentage, which means the larger the ranger, the more the camo protects you but the farther away you must remain without being attacked.

What's happening is that since the aggro ranges have increased, the more important camo charms are. But aggro was never as big of a deal as it is now so there was not really a reason to buy it in the first place. Since they removed the charms at the same time as they increased aggro range, there is no chance for people to buy what is now required and there was no warning that aggro ranges would be increased.
I see what you mean, but Ive never owned a camo charm or used one I rely on my level. It decrease the higher you level. I dont think the arggo zones increased too much.

You played before update, so you should remember when update first came out and the OW eyes arggo zone was ridiculous. It was like a required item to be able to level properly. Stone is the only place thats arggo zone has somewhat increased I guess...

Im just saying the higher level you get the smaller arggo zone gets, then eventually you wont need camo charm. Cant some mobs also see through camo charms?
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Valedictorian---Druid-----60+------Heals
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