Celtic Heroes

All the melee classes are always complaining about the Strenght plateau but no one ever wonders about the poor caster classes left in the dust. Melee classes rely on melee (makes sense doesnt it?) and caster classes can ONLY rely on skills. They rely on focus but melee have skills AND epic melee. The new lux is rediculous IMO, a melee offhand adds 300 direct damage to their melee and some skills, yet the caster classes lux that costs the same amount but adds about maybe 30 damage to each new damage skill. Honestly that is not where near worth that amount of money, im asking for OTM to actually make focus useful and reduce the plateau.

I have the focus of the seer, it adds 200 focus giving me an additional 1k energy and adding 40 heal points, about 30 dmg into vines lightning and swarm then reducing 90 attack for my howling wind, where as i could add about 250dmg for the same price to EACH of my melee attacks.

Cmon OTM, this shouldnt be an issue. Balance the game more, remove the Plateau.

Godzilla007, 124 druid. Taranis, AnteBellum.

I don't think OTM should remove the plateaus imo. Plateaus almost force us to choose stats wisely and allowing us to reach maximum benefit of every stat. That being said, I do think a slight tweak would be nice.

We arn't level 80 any more. A level 170 with 500 strength, 100 more strength than another level 170 with 400 strength should be hitting much higher. That isn't the case, however. At lower levels it is fine as that many points is more of a big deal and a plateau is not very apparent. The game, after all, was probably designed for the lower levels (compared to now).

By the way, incase this has popped out of your head, 100 points is 20 levels worth and at high levels, points are rewarded less often!

Focus works the same way in a sense ^

My results:
I have the level 150 offhand focus of the mystic. Adds 25 energy regen and 250 focus with other small bonuses. Here's my bonus from it giving my skills and stats.

Without offhand: 690 focus 4902 energy
With offhand: 940 focus 6128 energy
Total bonus: 1226 energy

Without: Level 35 Natures Touch: 1186
With: 1282
Total bonus: 96

Without: Level 39 Strangling Vines: 1547
With: 1696
Total bonus: 149

Without : Level 39 Lightening Strike: 2167
With: 2387
Total bonus: 220

Without: Level 34 Storm Touch: 2763
With: 3023
Total bonus: 287

Without: Level 35 Shield of Bark: 483 armor
With: 521
Total bonus: 38

Although i do feel the benefit we gain is completely underpowered than the amount of gold that we spend on lux, we are kinda limited on offhands... In that the only "real" offhands we have to choose from is lux. Except for the dragonlord offhand, which is supposedly level 185 requirement though no real verification except from posts from beta tester posts and offhands from the different armor and weapon vendors as far as melee classes go.

As far as comparing them to the 300 damage lux offhands though, you gotta understand that on paper they do look amazing. 300 extra elemental damage plus a bonus to attack and strength! Can someone say OP! No... The damage is all elemental which is easily resisted by mobs with high resists. After that yes it adds strength but the weapon itself doesn't add any physical damage meaning the strength bonus is only adding to your mainhand... Which is low anyways... And lets not forget the misses that will come regardless of the attack bonus given the offhands. Enemy defence is much higher.

All in all though... Regardless of their benefits and flaws we are going to buy them... Why you ask??? Because what else are we gonna use in our offhands? I guess melees at least have options in the different non-lux shops but even they suck...

I don't think OTM should remove the plateaus imo. Plateaus almost force us to choose stats wisely and allowing us to reach maximum benefit of every stat.

Warriors, rangers and rogues can make use of every stat they have. Druids and mages are stuck with having focus and vitality that are the only really stats that benefit them. We are stuch with those stats, even when we have hit the Plateau we have no other choice except to use focus or vit, melee classes can use all the stats to benefit them (even focus, i dont see how strength helps support druid though)

Although i do feel the benefit we gain is completely underpowered than the amount of gold that we spend on lux, we are kinda limited on offhands... In that the only "real" offhands we have to choose from is lux. Except for the dragonlord offhand, which is supposedly level 185 requirement though no real verification except from posts from beta tester posts and offhands from the different armor and weapon vendors as far as melee classes go.

As far as comparing them to the 300 damage lux offhands though, you gotta understand that on paper they do look amazing. 300 extra elemental damage plus a bonus to attack and strength! Can someone say OP! No... The damage is all elemental which is easily resisted by mobs with high resists. After that yes it adds strength but the weapon itself doesn't add any physical damage meaning the strength bonus is only adding to your mainhand... Which is low anyways... And lets not forget the misses that will come regardless of the attack bonus given the offhands. Enemy defence is much higher.

All in all though... Regardless of their benefits and flaws we are going to buy them... Why you ask??? Because what else are we gonna use in our offhands? I guess melees at least have options in the different non-lux shops but even they suck...

That is exactly true, what is a support druid gonna do with a 500k axe? We druids are limited to 2 offhands with real use, melee on the other hand have loads of new offhands. Ones that they can make use of.

having 250 focus looks amazing on paper also, but in reality mobs have resists to magic. The amount of misses we druids have to deal with is insane also, 1/4 of spells miss on mobs my own lvl and that increases to 1/3 for bosses! That is insane considering spells are our main source of dps.

People will say "you can use the new offhands, no ones stopping you and there is always the h2h build"
Well then, go check out the druid forums. see the energy crisis we have. We need as much regen time for our sigils as possible, there is no need for us to attack constantly for no time in regen. Being a druid has only made things tougher in the update. COME ON OTM FIX THE PLATEAU, ADD MORE OFFHAND CHOICES AND FIX OUR ENERGY

Rant over ...

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I don't think OTM should remove the plateaus imo. Plateaus almost force us to choose stats wisely and allowing us to reach maximum benefit of every stat.

Warriors, rangers and rogues can make use of every stat they have. Druids and mages are stuck with having focus and vitality that are the only really stats that benefit them. We are stuch with those stats, even when we have hit the Plateau we have no other choice except to use focus or vit, melee classes can use all the stats to benefit them (even focus, i dont see how strength helps support druid though)

Although i do feel the benefit we gain is completely underpowered than the amount of gold that we spend on lux, we are kinda limited on offhands... In that the only "real" offhands we have to choose from is lux. Except for the dragonlord offhand, which is supposedly level 185 requirement though no real verification except from posts from beta tester posts and offhands from the different armor and weapon vendors as far as melee classes go.

As far as comparing them to the 300 damage lux offhands though, you gotta understand that on paper they do look amazing. 300 extra elemental damage plus a bonus to attack and strength! Can someone say OP! No... The damage is all elemental which is easily resisted by mobs with high resists. After that yes it adds strength but the weapon itself doesn't add any physical damage meaning the strength bonus is only adding to your mainhand... Which is low anyways... And lets not forget the misses that will come regardless of the attack bonus given the offhands. Enemy defence is much higher.

All in all though... Regardless of their benefits and flaws we are going to buy them... Why you ask??? Because what else are we gonna use in our offhands? I guess melees at least have options in the different non-lux shops but even they suck...

That is exactly true, what is a support druid gonna do with a 500k axe? We druids are limited to 2 offhands with real use, melee on the other hand have loads of new offhands. Ones that they can make use of.

having 250 focus looks amazing on paper also, but in reality mobs have resists to magic. The amount of misses we druids have to deal with is insane also, 1/4 of spells miss on mobs my own lvl and that increases to 1/3 for bosses! That is insane considering spells are our main source of dps.

People will say "you can use the new offhands, no ones stopping you and there is always the h2h build"
Well then, go check out the druid forums. see the energy crisis we have. We need as much regen time for our sigils as possible, there is no need for us to attack constantly for no time in regen. Being a druid has only made things tougher in the update. COME ON OTM FIX THE PLATEAU, ADD MORE OFFHAND CHOICES AND FIX OUR ENERGY

Rant over ...

... so far

These reasons highlight why pumping a ton of dex in to your build so hw works is not a realistic alternative also(unless I am just bugged) .

I don't think OTM should remove the plateaus imo. Plateaus almost force us to choose stats wisely and allowing us to reach maximum benefit of every stat.

Warriors, rangers and rogues can make use of every stat they have. Druids and mages are stuck with having focus and vitality that are the only really stats that benefit them. We are stuch with those stats, even when we have hit the Plateau we have no other choice except to use focus or vit, melee classes can use all the stats to benefit them (even focus, i dont see how strength helps support druid though)

I don't quite understand , are you saying that melee classes needing more than 2 stats is a good thing for the melee classes? The problem in the game currently with Mage running rampant and destroying all other dps is because they only truly need 1 stat and that's focus , it's also why Druids are out dpsing rangers . The other stats need to have some meaning for caster classes especially Mage . Dex plateaus for light heal/other dex skills as well although it is always a constant with regards to def:att . At the same time I think it's insane that Druids can't get a much bigger heal at highest levels.

But for melee classes that added damage is resisted and on mobs your level you only hit around the range of half of your damage on mobs around your level unless you have lures. But I agree that focus should add a bit more towards skills

I agree with Elim, I'm confused on what your talking about. To my knowledge there is no focus plateau. If u want to see a plateau play a melee. I rehabbed last night.
First 100 str gave me like 70-80 a hit
Second 100 str gave 30-40 a hit and 46 dmg (I believe)
Third 100 gave me maybe 20-30 a hit and 30 dmg

That's a plateau and only 300 and it only gets worse... Your complaining about having 2 stats could u imagine having 3 you'd be taking 300 focus out and dropping what 2k energy? And tons of dmg. Why would u want more stats to build?! Next instead of asking about a plateau ask to change the focus into regen.. Think about it.. A 50 regen hand that's 50 every 3 sec netting u 1k power a minute. That's 2 free spells far better than any extra focus could do IMO.