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Effect of defence and attack is broken

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:12 pm
by pigman
So, im going to try not to rant but just so everyone knows i am extremely pissed off about this. I am a rogue with 500 dex. More than most rangers which are a dex based class. I also have a maxed smoke bomb (takes 750 defence) and i am also such a nice guy that i maxed expose weakness to help the casters (-1000 evasion)

Now this is what happens when i take a second away from casting (remember i am a rogue not a caster) i swing, miss, miss, miss , miss miss miss miss miss

Put smoke ups

Miss miss miss 500 miss miss miss miss 250 miss miss miss miss



You get the point.


Why on earth as a strength based class do i have 500 dex and maxed support skills and still miss almost everything i throw at the new bosses? This is not the mobs just the bosses and their place holders.


Something is seriously wrong, rogues and rangers have no chance at competing in boss dps and you can only have so many rogues casting smoke, expose, and poison...

Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:22 pm
by Eliminater
Just to add on to pigs post , at same boss with pigs smoke up I went to an auto/buff build , running about 4000 attack and 2200 damage with buffs and ancient bone bow , Druid gets the kill over me lol .

Where is the balance ?

Lower pierce resistance and def I guess .


Rapids had posted when the update came out , petitioning to have high priest def lowered , I said nah I like the challenge, after seeing Druids out dps even the best geared dps classes I gotta agree with rapids now , lower all bosses def or do something , the lack of balance is insane.

Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:49 am
by pigman
Moved from recent beta posts to general

Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:06 pm
by Blaz
Just to add on to pigs post , at same boss with pigs smoke up I went to an auto/buff build , running about 4000 attack and 2200 damage with buffs and ancient bone bow , Druid gets the kill over me lol .

Where is the balance ?

Lower pierce resistance and def I guess .


Rapids had posted when the update came out , petitioning to have high priest def lowered , I said nah I like the challenge, after seeing Druids out dps even the best geared dps classes I gotta agree with rapids now , lower all bosses def or do something , the lack of balance is insane.
lol tell me about it i run on all best dps you can think of 4 godly dmg rings, imperial crush and talon brac, radi es, dmg campion helm and bone bow and druid still do more dmg then me... there is not a lack of balance there is none at all.

Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:44 pm
by SoulRanger
This isn't just new bosses either its been around since stonefang all seeing one spear horn etc.. If u look up u can see the number of misses and then every 5 seconds u see a lil fire bolt pop up. And if u have noticed its definitely out damaging any auto by at least 2x.

Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:52 pm
by Sir Blaze333
I agree, these new bosses have crazy defense! I know that red bosses have crazy attack and that's a unique characteristic; but defense is a whole other story when it's all the new bosses.

The title of the thread is misleading btw...

Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 2:03 pm
by Wretched
You guys just need to learn your role in update 4 :P

Rogues-support
Mages-support and dps
Rangers-support and heal
Tanks-walking stuff
Druids-dps

However..... When I get the kill on a 5* troll over a rad ranger and 3 other rangers with just vines and strike I tend to think the other classes are extremely underpowered.

In respect to dps I think druids are near perfect, maybe even a slight bigger boost would help. Imo opinion mages were just a hair overpowered at the start, but not terribly. Other classes just needed a boost or mob reduction.

Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 2:08 pm
by pigman
You guys just need to learn your role in update 4 :P

Rogues-support
Mages-support and dps
Rangers-support and heal
Tanks-walking stuff
Druids-dps

However..... When I get the kill on a 5* troll over a rad ranger and 3 other rangers with just vines and strike I tend to think the other classes are extremely underpowered.

In respect to dps I think druids are near perfect, maybe even a slight bigger boost would help. Imo opinion mages were just a hair overpowered at the start, but not terribly. Other classes just needed a boost or mob reduction.


I really hope you are kidding. The way rogue "support" works you can only hve one useful rogue at a boss. You can have unlimited useful druids and tbh i think dps druids are a tad selfish

Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 2:16 pm
by Wretched
You guys just need to learn your role in update 4 :P

Rogues-support
Mages-support and dps
Rangers-support and heal
Tanks-walking stuff
Druids-dps

However..... When I get the kill on a 5* troll over a rad ranger and 3 other rangers with just vines and strike I tend to think the other classes are extremely underpowered.

In respect to dps I think druids are near perfect, maybe even a slight bigger boost would help. Imo opinion mages were just a hair overpowered at the start, but not terribly. Other classes just needed a boost or mob reduction.


I really hope you are kidding. The way rogue "support" works you can only hve one useful rogue at a boss. You can have unlimited useful druids and tbh i think dps druids are a tad selfish
....It's all in good fun :lol:

And tbh I think there are people who are selfish, not classes. I dps to have some fun getting other classes riled up, I do alt for most if not all bosses though.

That being said, do I need a disclaimer in my sig staying most of my posts are only to poke fun? Just lightening it up a little is all. If you ask any druid we'll tell ya straight up it sucks to be a druid this update so far, so I tease other classes instead of raging about mine.

Re: Effect of defence and attack is broken

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 2:21 pm
by pigman
You guys just need to learn your role in update 4 :P

Rogues-support
Mages-support and dps
Rangers-support and heal
Tanks-walking stuff
Druids-dps

However..... When I get the kill on a 5* troll over a rad ranger and 3 other rangers with just vines and strike I tend to think the other classes are extremely underpowered.

In respect to dps I think druids are near perfect, maybe even a slight bigger boost would help. Imo opinion mages were just a hair overpowered at the start, but not terribly. Other classes just needed a boost or mob reduction.


I really hope you are kidding. The way rogue "support" works you can only hve one useful rogue at a boss. You can have unlimited useful druids and tbh i think dps druids are a tad selfish
....It's all in good fun :lol:

And tbh I think there are people who are selfish, not classes. I dps to have some fun getting other classes riled up, I do alt for most if not all bosses though.

That being said, do I need a disclaimer in my sig staying most of my posts are only to poke fun? Just lightening it up a little is all. If you ask any druid we'll tell ya straight up it sucks to be a druid this update so far, so I tease other classes instead of raging about mine.

Makes sense i suppose, though the druids in my clan seem more than happy as is. Im just very frustrated that i cant land even half my melees and i am being beat by the healer class