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Evade and sneaky!!!!!

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 12:50 pm
by Nhdk
Ok first off why was evade put on ??? This makes mobs really hard for me to solo specially if it a couple lvls highers than me. When I fight higher level mobs I cast sneaky as an advantage to get more dents in it but then the dumb skill eveades and I have to sit there an wait until I can cast again so I can kill it. Not only does that happen but what up with sneaky,quick strike,and rend???? First off sneaky cant cast fast anymore lie it used to so no when I dont want someone jacking my mob I have to stand there and wait like a min for it to cast while others like mages cast all there skills very fast. Also, I have noticed that with rend. Last but not least, quick strike seems like it takes a a longer time to cast an man that sucks :( I see rangers hitting really fast and they are alot lower than me and im mostly all dps. On last update I wa able to dominate specially with wk dagger but now I suck horribly

Re: Evade and sneaky!!!!!

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:17 pm
by Nhdk
Will this even be fixed???

Re: Evade and sneaky!!!!!

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:49 pm
by Croquette
They made this specially for the game to be more hard.
Don't hope a lot about them to fix it.

Re: Evade and sneaky!!!!!

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:10 pm
by furby @ thornlizzard
lol :lol:

Re: Evade and sneaky!!!!!

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:10 pm
by StarLight
I doubt they left out valuable information in order to make the game "Hard".

Frustration, And confusion isn't Gameplay.. Nor is it enjoyable.

This will get fixed.. I hope.

Re: Evade and sneaky!!!!!

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:17 pm
by Croquette
What do ya think?!
We are not the lvls 90 in an area like Stonevale anymore..!
We are noobs.
Get to a better lvl and it will be like before the update...

Re: Evade and sneaky!!!!!

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:22 pm
by TheDarkSide
Ok first off why was evade put on ??? This makes mobs really hard for me to solo specially if it a couple lvls highers than me. When I fight higher level mobs I cast sneaky as an advantage to get more dents in it but then the dumb skill eveades and I have to sit there an wait until I can cast again so I can kill it. Not only does that happen but what up with sneaky,quick strike,and rend???? First off sneaky cant cast fast anymore lie it used to so no when I dont want someone jacking my mob I have to stand there and wait like a min for it to cast while others like mages cast all there skills very fast. Also, I have noticed that with rend. Last but not least, quick strike seems like it takes a a longer time to cast an man that sucks I see rangers hitting really fast and they are alot lower than me and im mostly all dps. On last update I wa able to dominate specially with wk dagger but now I suck horribly
Why did they put it on, you ask?

This game is developing. Its growing, its evolving. It is no longer automatic, where every hit is a score and you can kill a mob just like that. it was put in because the game needs an attribute which it can rely on to determine when to issue an evasion in a bossfight, in other words to make determining the outcome more accurate.

Having said that, ill admit this: (and not wanting to contradict myself either) i think sneaky may have been nerfed a lil much because it feels as though it has had far more damage removed, and now the evasion mechanism is coming down harder on it for some reason. based on seemingly legitimate data collected over a few days - Sneaky only hits maybe once in every 4/5 time QS and Rend do. for bossfights this is even more so, although it may explain itself just a little if you were to say well, its a boss, its meant to be hard to hit.

you think the rangers are quicker dps than you, dont use wk dagger, duh.

Re: Evade and sneaky!!!!!

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:02 pm
by Kokurou
I personally think...and this is what I've read from the update post about the sneaky attack. Unlike quick strike and rend (which happens in a flash second) and I'm gonna quote both the beta testers and admin, sneaky attack depends on your main hand attack speed. So, let's say your main hand is for a rogue, using ice lord dagger which is well over 3.000, it's gonna take time to cast. Whereas a cruel knife at 1.4 it casts quickly. But they purposely madde it this way because we all breezed through 1-20 within a few days, others within minutes using xp pots. Along with doing that fettlecap quest a thousand times, but now that I know the reason behind the changes in damage, enemy hp, their sudden ability to evade some attacks, is to make the game harder for us. Not so much the new players, but the ones 20+. I'm certainly having a hard time leveling from 55 trying to reach 70. Personally, it was too easy to solo most of the faeries only at lvl 55 and solo two summer spark wisps at the same time. I enjoy a challenge. As should everyone else. Unless you want an easier game then, by all means check out Dark Legends. No as fun or much freedom, but leveling is certainly easier. Not much challenge either.

Re: Evade and sneaky!!!!!

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:36 pm
by Vasili
as an old rogue who has been Nerfed in every update. I personally don't have a problem with the evade portion of the sneaky Nerf(yes it stinks but I understand its purpose). cast time is a bit slow even with a fast weapon.(I use the fastest dps ratio I can get) but the damage is really not much more than my quick strike. I am finding that it may not be worth my time to use other skills from a dps point of view. (I'm still testing) but I seem to kill faster just with normal and quick strike. I'm not using rend as much, or even sneaky considering the mana drain vs dmg and cast time. even the quick strike is slower over all.

So maybe a little tweak is in order?

I have fast weapons speedy gloves and other lux stuff. I can imagine how a rogue with out must feel.