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Re: Str Vs Damage Table For Druid

#11

Yeah, but you forgot that the 45 dex also adds strength to a druid. So instead of 45 str, you are getting 90 str. That's more than what the golden blades give you in terms of strength. Also, when I said remove the regen from the equation I simply meant let's not mention it because the blades doesn't offer any type of regen.
errrrr

When did Dex add to Str?
Oops I thought I read in the OP that it add to str, but it adds to atk
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Re: Str Vs Damage Table For Druid

#12
Oops I thought I read in the OP that it add to str, but it adds to atk
Aleph covered that part
Trident 45 dex is more than the golden blades, which have none. So you will likely hit more often with the trident, but not as often. Unless you have high enough dex that the 45 from the trident doesn't make an appreciable difference, or are working with a rogue with a strong smoke bomb. You will also have higher defense when wielding the trident, which will help you avoid attacks.
Honestly tho, even at L50, you can have as much as 500 Attack from your Ability alone (505 total with our base dex). Adding 45 to that won't even be 10%. At L100, you attack from Ability will be 1000.
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Re: Str Vs Damage Table For Druid

#14
And for an encore I will go with an obscure 80s cult movie reference and suggest a discussion of poisoning by iocaine powder.
Apparently not as obscure as I thought. Given the digression it's created, I'm not sure it was wise to footnote my post with that. But it has led me to a startling realization about the CH resurrection spell. I do believe that 'Spring of Life' should be renamed 'Miracle Pill'. It takes too long to work and although your victim... errr.... patient might have been brought back from the 'almost dead', they have barely any health or energy, and are likely to die if someone looks at them the wrong way. And you end up spending all your time and energy propping them up rather than storming the castle.

As for data on the effect of ability on h2h damage, it'll have to wait since I decided to spend my evening actually playing the game.
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Re: Str Vs Damage Table For Druid

#15
I created a Str Vs Damage for druids who wish to invest some stats in strength. This is based on:
1) Strength from 5, 50, 100, 150
2) Level from 80, 90, 100, 110, 120, 130, 140, 150
3) T.A means Totem Ability
4) Weapon chosen is Diamond Icon at 55 crushing damage
5) Formula is Based from http://www.onethumbmobile.com/celticher ... th+formula
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Judging from the Table, strength is most useful for the first 45 stat points, usually resulting in 40 odd additional damage.
Any extra points invested into 50 strength and above usually gives you a return of 20-25 damage for every 50 points and it slowly diminishes like our focus rate of returns.
Every 10 levels of totem ability gives an extra 4 - 5 damage.

Additional Information
If you invest into Dexterity, every 1 one point gives you 1 additional attack and 2 defence. 5 Dex = 5 attack and 10 defence etc
If you invest into Vitality, every 1 point gives between 5 - 6 additional health depending.
Fingers crossed that I have done my maths right but it should be fairly accurate. (I hope :mrgreen: )

So its actually pretty straight forward if you bother to do some maths and it should help to save you a couple of rebirth books

WOW Morph!!! Thanks for taking the time to make this!
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Re: Str Vs Damage Table For Druid

#16
My question still wasn't fully answered. I was given a list of pros and cons, but I still don't know why a druid would use the golden blades over the trident. Could someone feel me in because to me the trident looks so much more appealing to a druid.
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Re: Str Vs Damage Table For Druid

#17
My question still wasn't fully answered. I was given a list of pros and cons, but I still don't know why a druid would use the golden blades over the trident. Could someone feel me in because to me the trident looks so much more appealing to a druid.
You should be able to figure it out from my pros vs cons post, but here, I'll do your thinking for you.
  • Players with an energy-dependent dps build but who still want to melee a bit will generally choose the trident over the golden blade because the energy regen trumps the extra damage of the golden blade.
  • Anyone with a melee-weighted dps build will choose the golden blade because they won't care as much about regen.
  • This is ignoring the orb and grimoire but you should be able to work out the advantages of those.
As for the particular flavor of trident/golden blade, smart players will base it on the zones they are playing in and the mobs they are fighting.
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Re: Str Vs Damage Table For Druid

#18
My question still wasn't fully answered. I was given a list of pros and cons, but I still don't know why a druid would use the golden blades over the trident. Could someone feel me in because to me the trident looks so much more appealing to a druid.
You should be able to figure it out from my pros vs cons post, but here, I'll do your thinking for you.
  • Players with an energy-dependent dps build but who still want to melee a bit will generally choose the trident over the golden blade because the energy regen trumps the extra damage of the golden blade.
  • Anyone with a melee-weighted dps build will choose the golden blade because they won't care as much about regen.
  • This is ignoring the orb and grimoire but you should be able to work out the advantages of those.
As for the particular flavor of trident/golden blade, smart players will base it on the zones they are playing in and the mobs they are fighting.
I didn't ask you to think for me. You clearly misread the question at hand. I said that the trident looks more appealing than the blade because druids are mostly focus builds. That being said, I just wanted someone to shed light on the fact of why someone would want to use the blades. Not the in-depth description of what the items have to offer. I can read that on the games description.

So thank for thinking that you're doing me a favor by "thinking" for me.

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Re: Str Vs Damage Table For Druid

#19
I didn't ask you to think for me. You clearly misread the question at hand. I said that the trident looks more appealing than the blade because druids are mostly focus builds. That being said, I just wanted someone to shed light on the fact of why someone would want to use the blades. Not the in-depth description of what the items have to offer. I can read that on the games description.

So thank for thinking that you're doing me a favor by "thinking" for me.

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I don't think I misread your question, I just keyed in on the phrase "so every druid should..." from your question and posted a long, descriptive analysis of the items you asked about for the good of the larger community as a longwinded way of saying:
No druid "should" anything. Every build and play style is different. It depends on your situation. Some druids will choose the trident, some will choose the blade. Have a look at all the stats in the shop and weigh the advantages and disadvantages of each against your needs, but here are some important considerations.
In future I will try to answer a your questions a bit more literally. :)
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Re: Str Vs Damage Table For Druid

#20
I didn't ask you to think for me. You clearly misread the question at hand. I said that the trident looks more appealing than the blade because druids are mostly focus builds. That being said, I just wanted someone to shed light on the fact of why someone would want to use the blades. Not the in-depth description of what the items have to offer. I can read that on the games description.

So thank for thinking that you're doing me a favor by "thinking" for me.

Entity
I don't think I misread your question, I just keyed in on the phrase "so every druid should..." from your question and posted a long, descriptive analysis of the items you asked about for the good of the larger community as a longwinded way of saying:
No druid "should" anything. Every build and play style is different. It depends on your situation. Some druids will choose the trident, some will choose the blade. Have a look at all the stats in the shop and weigh the advantages and disadvantages of each against your needs, but here are some important considerations.
In future I will try to answer a your questions a bit more literally. :)
That key phrase wasn't anywhere in my original question (if that's the one you are talking about). My question was (not a direct quote, but along the lines) "is this why druids would use a trident over the blade?" Had nothing with me saying we all should. How would I make that assumption if I didn't even know why druids would use the blade to begin with? It seems that you are very lost in terms of my question and your responses, but that's okay. I'm finish talking about this because you already (kinda) answered it and there's nothing else that you can for me pertaining to this topic.

If you feel the need to "literally" answer my questions next time, that would be greatly appreciated because that would not only mean that you would read a bit closer, but you would also be able to be more useful in terms of actually answering my question in the first response and the not the second or third. :D

Sorry for the disruption guys. I think I understand the charts and how the trident vs blade thing works.

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