Celtic Heroes

It has been bugging me for a while that druids always get forgotten when it comes to weapons. Outside the Diamond Icon which is the best weapons us druids have seen in a long time. The key to this weapon it the +200 to Nature Magic. For most of a druid's work this is the go to weapon in this world, period.

But should it be our only choice?
I mean what fun is it have have just one great weapon to pick from?
Warrior get to choose between six diamond weapons!!!

If you are a warrior and want to do more damage you quickly consider the Diamond Warblade. It increases damage from the single hand +80 to a double handed +120. (I will not get into hammers and axes, more great choices for the most favored class) This sword is an item a dps warrior would consider, although losing an offhand bonus buff is difficult to over come.

With the Druids Diamond Battlestave it also increases damage from +50 to +75, but is this the same or equal bonus?

NO!!!

Druids do damage with spells! They are not as reliant as Mages, but still most of their big hits come from spells not from actually hitting the mob/boss. I have never seen any druid use a Diamond Battlestave and honestly would be very surprised to hear that one has even been sold in any world.

Why is it that other two handed class weapon cost 130 gold yet this one is 71 gold...
And still no one is buying it!

So let’s talk about what a premium, awesome, two handed staff would look like.

First, give it a little dps bonus, honestly going from 50 to 75 is just that. But consider given a nature damage bonus also. Increase the +200 nature damage to +300! (now were talking!)

Second, when Gandalf uses his staff his dexterity is off the charts. I think adding a +100 to dexterity is totally in line. If I have two hands on a stick then I would have considerably more dexterity with it. You also have to consider the magic in the staff to will it to do something before you actual move your hands.

Any good retailer has to consider his customer. So ask yourself what will it take for a druid to consider giving up his offhander?

It is not going to be for healing, it has to be a stick that helps us deliver more DPS.

So here is my suggestion for changes that would give me a reason to buy more plat.
(Because that is what it is all about right?)

Updated Diamond Battlestave
Two Handed
Slot Main Hand
Crushing Damage: +100
Attack Speed: 3550
Strength: +100
Dexterity: +100
Nature Magic: +300

Level Requirement: 80
Class Required: Druid

I don't think this is too much to consider when taking into account the loss of an Offhand.

I certainly agree.

I think +100 DEX might be too much with +300 nature, but I definately think that just a bit less, +50 DEX, +300 Nature, is fully reasonable.

The update to me was supposed to give options for Build of Druids, and it has fully in stats and skills but in weapons it's not. There is absolutely no reason to ever use a staff as a Druid. Because staves stats suck. They don't justify not using an offhand, I would really like to see all staves have a Meditate +3 attached, like a boon for using a bough of the earth. Allow a small concession to not have a regen offhand.

I don't personally agree with comparing what a Druid can use to a warrior. A warrior is Melee and weapon focused, a rogue/ranger with hand blades, spears and daggers/bows same thing. But what a Druid can use should be a valid option and now it's not, it's just a default totem.

It is a staff yes? So that means I can hit you with either end. It also means I can block your attack. Do the +100 Dex makes sense because it gives you additional defense but it also should give two attacks per round or at least make it a very fast weapon. Not sure how Dex adds in but it should give a bonus to blocking/parrying.

Tea I agree with your Gandalf comment but he was a mage. Why don't mages have staff use?

Right now my Druid uses a king staff I do normally 100-150 damage to my target and I'm lvl 46 with a 260 in staff you just need to ajust your build from mass healer to semi heal semi dps but no one wants to do that

I didn't say the Gandalf comment Papi, although I do think that Gandalf was a Wizard. Middle-earth lore isn't as simple as Mage or Druid. In that the other Wizards, the White, the Brown, the Red, him as the Grey/White were all attuned to different things in middle-earth. It's a different lore system, but I definately think you coulda called The Brown a Druid(even though he was undoubtably a Wizard).

Oooh knowing this is why I didn't get laid until college. So sad, so sad.

But yeah a staff could give either an extra attack every 2 rounds, or PROC an extra attack after a parry/dodge. Like give a Staff user a 10% chance to get an extra swing after a dodge/parry/block. Give the staff a DEX bonus to help maximize this. That in itself makes it a worthwhile weapon for a Druid, it doesn't make them OP, but it does give a Melee type Druid an option for a bit more dps/defense at likely fall off of group-oriented support.

Even if they made staffs better no one would use it any ways I know I would never get rid of my book that adds 100 focus because of the heal buff it adds

100 crush and some dex should justify this? No way...

I have a dps built, als DPS skills maxed and use icon + ice sword offhand. I do around 300ish auto attack dmg on blue eyes.

To make this more visual:

Icon
Crushing Dmg: 55
Speed: 3400
Weight: 10
Nature Magic: +200

Golden Blade of Ice
Cold DMG: 200
Weight 10
Resist Heat 150
Strength 75

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A staff as suggested would give a dps bonus if lux items did not exist. But every time, as soon as lux arrives, 2-handed weapons are more or less worthless.

I like the idea of +100 dex in general. BUT imo better would be to make a lux item equitable in the offhand slot when using a 2-handed weapon... like, make it a "add-on" type thing. There could be one that gives +200 nature to staffs, or +150 ice/fire/magic dmg, or +80 dmg and regen. etc.etc. maybe even a -200 weapon delay (as in... the weapon becomes faster!). You could add +5 skill points to lightning, vines and storm on certain staff add-ons and +5 on touch and breath on regular offhand items.

With these kinds of add ons aimed at making staffs a druid hybrid/dps weapon, and icons + offhand a hybrid/healer option it would actually make sense to have the two.

(same goes for warrior offhands, which aren't great with the new lux around)

I didn't say the Gandalf comment Papi,

My Bad it was Perl. Perl, sorry for giving your credit to Tea.
And Tea your lack of "success" in college had nothing to do with your geek-ness. You were a good boy and your mother is very proud of you.

I didn't say the Gandalf comment Papi,

My Bad it was Perl. Perl, sorry for giving your credit to Tea.

I was just referencing a character, who could use magic, and uses at staff. The obvious choice is Gandalf. In CH Druids are basically healing Mages. In other MMORPG games druids can actual be tanks!

All the points here are noted.

My main point is that CH is in the business to sell platinum. So if I was trying to get players to buy more platinum, why not design a two-hander that players would gladly pay for?

This begs the next question, what will make it worthy of putting an offhander back in the bag?
The book is awesome, the orb is ok, even some of the new offhander swords give great DPS. The key here is that if this weapon gets designed it needs to not replace the Icon and Book, but instead serve a purpose that those might lack.

My previous build suggestion stands (although I do see a possibility for it to hit faster because it has two ends) I don't think I over built it because it has to replace an offhander in order to get me to buy it.

I need something for me to use when the boss fight is over and my healing is done.
Could there be a weapon that I could use to solo with?
Or if not solo at least do some DPS contribution.

I didn't say the Gandalf comment Papi,

My Bad it was Perl. Perl, sorry for giving your credit to Tea.

I was just referencing a character, who could use magic, and uses at staff. The obvious choice is Gandalf. In CH Druids are basically healing Mages. In other MMORPG games druids can actual be tanks!

All the points here are noted.

My main point is that CH is in the business to sell platinum. So if I was trying to get players to buy more platinum, why not design a two-hander that players would gladly pay for?

This begs the next question, what will make it worthy of putting an offhander back in the bag?
The book is awesome, the orb is ok, even some of the new offhander swords give great DPS. The key here is that if this weapon gets designed it needs to not replace the Icon and Book, but instead serve a purpose that those might lack.

My previous build suggestion stands (although I do see a possibility for it to hit faster because it has two ends) I don't think I over built it because it has to replace an offhander in order to get me to buy it.

I need something for me to use when the boss fight is over and my healing is done.
Could there be a weapon that I could use to solo with?
Or if not solo at least do some DPS contribution.