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Melee attacks for druids...I've had enough of skills

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I think that druids should have higher melee, in case you're dps. Like totem damage should be affected by focus, not strength. Same with staffs I suppose. Even as dps, I only have like 2 damage skills(lightning and strangling), and I can't afford Storm Touch. This makes me do much less damage than I should. I understand that druids have major healing skills, and therefore I do not expect as much damage as other melee classes, but I feel like I need a bit more damage, and I won't be wasting my points on strength.

So just to sum it up: Druid weps should be affected by focus, not strength
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Re: Melee attacks for druids...I've had enough of skills

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I think that druids should have higher melee, in case you're dps. Like totem damage should be affected by focus, not strength. Same with staffs I suppose. Even as dps, I only have like 2 damage skills(lightning and strangling), and I can't afford Storm Touch. This makes me do much less damage than I should. I understand that druids have major healing skills, and therefore I do not expect as much damage as other melee classes, but I feel like I need a bit more damage, and I won't be wasting my points on strength.

So just to sum it up: Druid weps should be affected by focus, not strength
I understand what you are saying and i do feel you. But i have to also point out our current damage spells are more or less on par with current mage spells. (Vines vs incinerate, Lighting vs Firebolt & Storm vs Shand). We only lose out becoz they have lures.
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Re: Melee attacks for druids...I've had enough of skills

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I think that druids should have higher melee, in case you're dps. Like totem damage should be affected by focus, not strength. Same with staffs I suppose. Even as dps, I only have like 2 damage skills(lightning and strangling), and I can't afford Storm Touch. This makes me do much less damage than I should. I understand that druids have major healing skills, and therefore I do not expect as much damage as other melee classes, but I feel like I need a bit more damage, and I won't be wasting my points on strength.

So just to sum it up: Druid weps should be affected by focus, not strength
Not to sound mean, but I don't think your proposition makes much sense.

Focus makes sense for skills/spells. We can imagine that the higher level of concentration on the part of a spell-caster will result in more damage. No matter how hard I concentrate, however, I am not going to hit much harder with a blunt object. That damage will be a result of how much arm/back/chest/leg power I have.

A totem or staff requires strength. It is completely logical.

Reversing your idea, you are essentially also suggesting that a Warrior's energy pool should be based on his/her strength.

Not putting points into strength is your choice. It is the choice that all classes need to make. They need to think about how they want to spread their 5 points/level across 4 stats.

As for Storm, you are level 25. Just level up and collect the pages etc. yourself. That is what the quest is based for. You are not doing "much less damage than you should." You are doing the correct amount of damage for your level.
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Re: Melee attacks for druids...I've had enough of skills

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For, the first part, anyway, for the focus-should-not-affect-totem, I imagined like the lightning strike swirling around and stuff, dealing more damage. And for mages, lets face it, even without lures they have a lot more dps. Theyve got ice shards, firebolt, incinerate, fire storm, and maybe cloak of fire should go into the category too.
You are not doing "much less damage than you should."
This is assuming that I was a different class.
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Re: Melee attacks for druids...I've had enough of skills

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I've lvled my hand to hand skill up. I'd suggest you give it a try maybe. Trainer is the areana in the castle. I've increased my damage by doing this with some dragon gears ive acquired. This might solve the problem you might have. Also id like to point out I'm full support I do this while switch only some gear around.

Druid is a great class all around. Very versatile and just like every other class gear dependent. I don't expect to run out there in my full focus shred stuff with mele damage. Honostly though you would have to look at it like this,if Druids were to easy to level high level ones wouldn't be in such demand.

I didn't learn storm touch till I was almost level 60. I got all the pieces except the cover and bindings witch I asked in clan to buy them and had them givin to me because price is only 1-3k red cover or binding on my server. Also there are a couple usefull posts and guides on the Druid forum most of us are pretty helpful as we all know the pain it is to level Druid compared to other classes and it gives us a type of "brotherhood". I for one asked a couple questions as I was a lower level that really helped me and pointed me in direction I needed to go.

After trying a few things that will be mentioned around the Druid forum if you check around for the info you want and you are still no satisfied I'd suggest a different class. Druids def aren't for everyone.
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Re: Melee attacks for druids...I've had enough of skills

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I've lvled my hand to hand skill up. I'd suggest you give it a try maybe. Trainer is the areana in the castle. I've increased my damage by doing this with some dragon gears ive acquired. This might solve the problem you might have. Also id like to point out I'm full support I do this while switch only some gear around.

Druid is a great class all around. Very versatile and just like every other class gear dependent. I don't expect to run out there in my full focus shred stuff with mele damage. Honostly though you would have to look at it like this,if Druids were to easy to level high level ones wouldn't be in such demand.

I didn't learn storm touch till I was almost level 60. I got all the pieces except the cover and bindings witch I asked in clan to buy them and had them givin to me because price is only 1-3k red cover or binding on my server. Also there are a couple usefull posts and guides on the Druid forum most of us are pretty helpful as we all know the pain it is to level Druid compared to other classes and it gives us a type of "brotherhood". I for one asked a couple questions as I was a lower level that really helped me and pointed me in direction I needed to go.

After trying a few things that will be mentioned around the Druid forum if you check around for the info you want and you are still no satisfied I'd suggest a different class. Druids def aren't for everyone.
I was only implying that it'd be cool to have better melee; not that I didn't like them.
I won't be staying dps at least, not until I get in a decent clan, and when my 5 per tick energy regen becomes ineffective. But im definitely making a rogue or something when im rich and stuff ;)
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Re: Melee attacks for druids...I've had enough of skills

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Pika - I'm going to deal with your post in reverse order, as it will make me look like less of a jerk :lol:
You are not doing "much less damage than you should."
This is assuming that I was a different class.
You are trying to compare cumquats to crab-apples. You can't say that a level 25 Druid does less damage than it should compared to a level 25 Warrior or Rogue, for instance. Again, you are doing the correct damage (assuming you have your stats, skills and abilities sorted) for your class/level.

I don't deny that you could do more. Of course you could. I have a low level Druid that lays down massive damage due to Storm and damage gear. That Druid is unnatural, however. He does more damage than he should.
And for mages, lets face it, even without lures they have a lot more dps. Theyve got ice shards, firebolt, incinerate, fire storm, and maybe cloak of fire should go into the category too.


Again, your comparison is skewed. You are listing the skills of a level 70 Mage and using it for comparison against your level 25 Druid. A level 25 Mage would not naturally have Incinerate nor Fire Storm. Those skills should not be used to base your comparison. Beyond that, a Mage is simply a better DPS dealer than a Druid. Druids make up for this in heals and buffs.

For, the first part, anyway, for the focus-should-not-affect-totem, I imagined like the lightning strike swirling around and stuff, dealing more damage.


Here you have an interesting idea, I just don't think you have flushed it out as much as you could. It sounds to me that what you really want is a weapon that has the possibility to proc a damage skill, whose power is based on Focus. This is an interesting idea. Maybe you could reword it and post in Feedback and Suggestions.

I don't know that a low level Druid could wield such a weapon (I mean the whole thing of these sorts of games is training and advancing yourself... This sort of weapon in a low level Druid's hands would be like giving nun-chucks to a kid on his first day of karate class). If this sort of weapon were introduced, there would most likely be a high level requirement. Interesting, however.
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lvl 135+ Druid (Double Helix Build)
Clan Infection... of the Britannians family of clans.

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