Celtic Heroes

Let me start this post off by saying I am in no way complaining about Druids. I love my Druid and think they are probably the most balanced class in the game. We're the best healers so always sought after in boss fights and group leveling. We're amazing support with our buffs and wards and we can do a decent amount of dps with our dmg spells depending on our build. I've only got two problems. One is with the quest armor we're given which has already been discussed so we'll wait and see what dragon armor gives us. The other thing is the spell Spring of Life...
For those unfamiliar with this spell let me explain it to you.

Spring of Life
1/25
Call upon nature to resurrect a fallen ally level 10 or lower.
Energy cost: 13

Points in the ability increase the level of ally you can rez, haven't placed points in it so I'm unsure exactly how it progresses. At first sight you might think of this spell as your savior. Oh but how blind you are. Unfortunately it brings the target back at only 1 health and , from what I've read, 1 energy. I just don't see any Druids putting points in this and using it effectively. If you can then by all means please post your build and give us your spring of life strategies.
Back on topic how would you change the spell to make it more usable but not game breaking?
My suggestion would be

Spring of Life
1/?
Call upon natures magic to bring back one fallen ally with 1 health and the same energy they died with.

Have the points added into spring of life increase the health gained in 100 point increments. That way a level 25/? spring would bring back a fallen ally with 2401 health. Not enough to bring a tank back to full health but enough to where he can withstand another hit or two while the party regains control of the situation. Keep the cooldown time stay the same so we can't spam it in battle and have to use it wisely and it could even add alot of aggro to the Druid. You're thoughts or suggestion.

Unfortunately it brings the target back at only 1 health and , from what I've read, 1 energy.

Having experienced this spell (casted on me), I can confirm this.

As I understand it, this makes the spell Completely Useless in places where there are permanent DoTs like the lava floor.


It definitely needs looking into. I don't know if 100 per pt is ok, maybe 50, or even 25 instead (100 per pt @ L25 or 2500 health would bring back non tanks to full health... that would be OP IMO).

Ok i have just killed and rez someone with a lv 6 spell (ring). 5 health and 4 energy so it seems to hint that with higher levels it does increase yr health/mana by 1 each lv more or less which is pathetic

I like maxxee's suggestion with 100 hp per lv. SOl at lv 25 means the hp will be 2500 which is for lv 120 classes. I would think that 2500 hp is probably only 50% to 65% for a good tank at that level. While it does bring non tank classes back at full hp, it wouldnt be considered too OP due to the reloading time (like 2-3 mins?) and amount of skill points required.

I dont mind the energy being the same as they died with but it seriously doesnt make sense why SOL wouldnt have the same effect as rez idols. It should be full mana as well. (Full health could be considered OP so I will not mention it)

I was also thinking SOL could be the same with wards, you can only rez the fallen ally who is in your group. That should also help making it less OP.

TeaW mentioned SOL will get a big make over in Update 4. I really hope so as its the most dissappointing spell with greatest potential I have encountered.

The mention I made was not some inside info on the spell. Just the fact that Druids who beta test won't quiet down about it being a stupid spell with so much potential. And they will agitate it inside beta to be given some love.

I personally think it needs to be AoE(hence the spring of life), and revive everyone within 3m, with 20% Health and Energy. I am fine with the spell costing a ton of energy, I used SoL for months before spec'ing out of it and I like it, but it simply needs to be made better.

I dont mind the energy being the same as they died with but it seriously doesnt make sense why SOL wouldnt have the same effect as rez idols. It should be full mana as well. (Full health could be considered OP so I will not mention it)

I'm pretty sure Rez idols don't bring you back with full energy only full health with the energy you had when killed, I could be wrong though... I do feel like bringing back at full energy could be abused by mages and druids in long boss fights though. Example: Mage spams all his spells for max damage possible then suicides himself at an OW boss fight through AOE's (Area of Effect spells) so he can be rez'd be a Druid back to full energy. Wouldn't be used as much if only one or two Druids are available but given a fight with multiple Druids some could abuse this.

Before update 3, idols would bring you back with full energy. After the update they brought you back with what you had when you died. There was much discussion and complaint, and at some point OTM staff posted that the second behavior was in fact the proper one.

As for spring of life bringing people back with full energy, I agree that this is a bad idea because of the potential for abuse that Maxee has pointed out. Of course, it it was implemented this way, I would probably make a killing on my stash of death cap mushrooms.

Ok I was under the assumption of idols would bring you back to full energy. I tested it and you lot were correct. Energy remains as per the amount when you died.
In that case yes, I am fine with energy and health being 20% as per TeaW. Although.. If I am a mage with 80% mana when I died and someone rez me back with 20% mana, I bet you would rather use an idol than to be rez. So I would suggest to still remain as per idol on energy. Same when you died, same when you got rez/use idol

I also like the idea of AOE suggestion

Perfect idea of a fix!
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Get rid of the useless skill and bring in something else!

I'm just starting to use it, it definitely needs some tweaks, but has tons of potential.
I'm going to try it out for a couple of weeks, need it maxed to rez my higher level buddies, so that's a lot of points.
The long cast is a bummer, can't use it when I'm duo-lvling because I get hit while trying to rez my dead buddy....so we both end up dead
will see how it works in boss fights. Right now I only see it being useful when getting slaughtered.... the whole grp is timed out on idol timers and you can pop one person up....assuming you don't have aggro, lol

The mention I made was not some inside info on the spell. Just the fact that Druids who beta test won't quiet down about it being a stupid spell with so much potential. And they will agitate it inside beta to be given some love.

I personally think it needs to be AoE(hence the spring of life), and revive everyone within 3m, with 20% Health and Energy. I am fine with the spell costing a ton of energy, I used SoL for months before spec'ing out of it and I like it, but it simply needs to be made better.

In addition, I think it shouldn't be level-based where each point allows you to rez someone another 5 levels than before. I think each point in SoL should increase the hp/energy of the resurrected, regardless of level, where 50/50 Spring of Life grants 100% hp/energy back. it should also be insta-cast since idols are.