Celtic Heroes

I created a Str Vs Damage for druids who wish to invest some stats in strength. This is based on:
1) Strength from 5, 50, 100, 150
2) Level from 80, 90, 100, 110, 120, 130, 140, 150
3) T.A means Totem Ability
4) Weapon chosen is Diamond Icon at 55 crushing damage
5) Formula is Based from http://www.onethumbmobile.com/celticher ... th+formula
Judging from the Table, strength is most useful for the first 45 stat points, usually resulting in 40 odd additional damage.
Any extra points invested into 50 strength and above usually gives you a return of 20-25 damage for every 50 points and it slowly diminishes like our focus rate of returns.
Every 10 levels of totem ability gives an extra 4 - 5 damage.

Additional Information
If you invest into Dexterity, every 1 one point gives you 1 additional attack and 2 defence. 5 Dex = 5 attack and 10 defence etc
If you invest into Vitality, every 1 point gives between 5 - 6 additional health depending.
Fingers crossed that I have done my maths right but it should be fairly accurate. (I hope )

So its actually pretty straight forward if you bother to do some maths and it should help to save you a couple of rebirth books

Couple of points:

Vit gives flat 6.25 Health per point. This may not always "show up" when adding 1 point at a time (weird rounding from OTM), but it should even out.

Edited out.

That said, assuming a 1000 ability @ L100 (Edit):

Str #14 (total str of 19) is the last pt when you get at least 1 pt in dmg. (Str #15 gives .9833)
Str #74 (total str of 79) is the last pt when you get at least .5 pt in dmg (Str #75 gives .4997)


Note tho that any items you have that adds DAMAGE will move these pts

E.G +5 Dmg (ior a 60 dmg weap)
And you have Str#21 and Str#89

Edit: for Aleph's corrections; formulas are the same since using the same 1000 ability

The quartz icon (min level 60) gives +100 Nature Magic ability; diamond icon (min level 80) gives +200 Nature Magic ability. Neither has any effect on the melee Totem ability. Diamond deals slightly more crushing damage than quartz. I can't remember if they have different speeds.

The quartz icon (min level 60) gives +100 Nature Magic ability; diamond icon (min level 80) gives +200 Nature Magic ability. Neither has any effect on the melee Totem ability. Diamond deals slightly more crushing damage than quartz. I can't remember if they have different speeds.

Ah! Thanks for correction!

So is this why a dps druid should use a trident (45 dex and str boost) opposed to the golden blade of ice?

I also understand that the trident gives regen too, but not adding that to the equation, would the above statement be truthful?

So is this why a dps druid should use a trident (45 dex and str boost) opposed to the golden blade of ice?
I also understand that the trident gives regen too, but not adding that to the equation, would the above statement be truthful?

It really depends on where your dps is coming from, and your other stats. I don’t think you can take the trident’s regen out of the equation. Morph's chart should just give us some more data to help think about our builds, so let's think about this. After all, there's a reason people keep quoting Teaweasel's signature: "Best build is 30/30 in thinking for yerself."

• Trident 45 str is less than the 75 str from the golden blades. When using the golden blade you will do more damage when you hit.
• Trident 45 dex is more than the golden blades, which have none. So you will likely hit more often with the trident, but not as hard [edited to replace "often" with "hard"]. Unless you have high enough dex that the 45 from the trident doesn't make an appreciable difference, or are working with a rogue with a strong smoke bomb. You will also have higher defense when wielding the trident, which will help you avoid attacks.
• Trident 15 health & 15 energy regen is more than the golden blades, which have none. So if you need in-combat regen you probably want the trident. But if you really need in-combat regen from an offhand you might want to look at the Master's Grimoire (20 energy, no health) or the Orb (25 energy, no health).
• The golden blade of ice gives 150 (I think) fire resist. Could save you on lava or when fighting mobs with fire-based attacks. Blade of fire gives cold resist, and I’d guess that the blade of magic gives magic resist. Choose your offhand accordingly.
• I believe that the tridents give you a health bonus. Can’t remember if they also give attack or defense boost. Look it up and choose accordingly.
• If you get most of your dps from your spells, then tridents/golden blades are probably the wrong way to go. You want an offhand that gives you focus.

If you really want to take the regen and other properties out of the equation, presumably to maximize melee dps, make a rogue.

And for an encore I will go with an obscure 80s cult movie reference and suggest a discussion of poisoning by iocaine powder.

And for an encore I will go with an obscure 80s cult movie reference and suggest a discussion of poisoning by iocaine powder.

As you wish...


Anyway, I was hoping you'd also delve into the Elemental Dmg from those weaps :p Or are they not applicable for a Melee DPS calculation?

So is this why a dps druid should use a trident (45 dex and str boost) opposed to the golden blade of ice?
I also understand that the trident gives regen too, but not adding that to the equation, would the above statement be truthful?

It really depends on where your dps is coming from, and your other stats. I don’t think you can take the trident’s regen out of the equation. Morph's chart should just give us some more data to help think about our builds, so let's think about this. After all, there's a reason people keep quoting Teaweasel's signature: "Best build is 30/30 in thinking for yerself."

• Trident 45 str is less than the 75 str from the golden blades. When using the golden blade you will do more damage when you hit.
• Trident 45 dex is more than the golden blades, which have none. So you will likely hit more often with the trident, but not as often. Unless you have high enough dex that the 45 from the trident doesn't make an appreciable difference, or are working with a rogue with a strong smoke bomb. You will also have higher defense when wielding the trident, which will help you avoid attacks.
• Trident 15 health & 15 energy regen is more than the golden blades, which have none. So if you need in-combat regen you probably want the trident. But if you really need in-combat regen from an offhand you might want to look at the Master's Grimoire (20 energy, no health) or the Orb (25 energy, no health).
• The golden blade of ice gives 150 (I think) fire resist. Could save you on lava or when fighting mobs with fire-based attacks. Blade of fire gives cold resist, and I’d guess that the blade of magic gives magic resist. Choose your offhand accordingly.
• I believe that the tridents give you a health bonus. Can’t remember if they also give attack or defense boost. Look it up and choose accordingly.
• If you get most of your dps from your spells, then tridents/golden blades are probably the wrong way to go. You want an offhand that gives you focus.

If you really want to take the regen and other properties out of the equation, presumably to maximize melee dps, make a rogue.

And for an encore I will go with an obscure 80s cult movie reference and suggest a discussion of poisoning by iocaine powder.

Yeah, but you forgot that the 45 dex also adds strength to a druid. So instead of 45 str, you are getting 90 str. That's more than what the golden blades give you in terms of strength. Also, when I said remove the regen from the equation I simply meant let's not mention it because the blades doesn't offer any type of regen.

Yeah, but you forgot that the 45 dex also adds strength to a druid. So instead of 45 str, you are getting 90 str. That's more than what the golden blades give you in terms of strength. Also, when I said remove the regen from the equation I simply meant let's not mention it because the blades doesn't offer any type of regen.

errrrr

When did Dex add to Str?

Inconthievable!