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Re: Ice Mage/Freeze Mage Discussion.

#11
Just a suggestion
For defence I have dropped e shield lowered my focus to 275 snd put the rest in vit
They I moved all my skill points from med and boost and shield to bandage wounds and sacrifice.

I only use e shield to get a bandage off.

The bang for the buck o. Focus drops off so you really are not getti g your money's worth over 300
Having a more vit build let's Druids heal me, let's me heal myself and let's me use sacrifice.
Having a Druid near by means I never run out of e. I have enough vit that I can spam all my spells and sacrifice and my Druid keeps me embraced and touched. Soloing works well also.

This is just the defensive side. Offense can be any number of builds.

The point was bandage and sacrifice is a lot faster than meditate and boost.
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Doriz-Ranger 70
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Re: Ice Mage/Freeze Mage Discussion.

#12
Papi!

Yes, I have been experiemnting along the same lines to try and figure out how to use sacrifice, which is very fast cast and can be balanced with the Druids embrace. I would love to hear more about how this is working and based on your comment will go further down this road.

Are you also running Boost or not?
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Re: Ice Mage/Freeze Mage Discussion.

#13
Papi!

Yes, I have been experiemnting along the same lines to try and figure out how to use sacrifice, which is very fast cast and can be balanced with the Druids embrace. I would love to hear more about how this is working and based on your comment will go further down this road.

Are you also running Boost or not?
I have no points in boost or meditate but I do cast them

The main benefit is that I can manage my dps with boss fights so I don't ripun out of e. I can't go nuts with dps but I can manage it.
Papi - Arawn - Beta 4
GuildChief- / MageGuild (Chief)
Glanmoric-Mage 120
Duergath-Rogue 100 TheFamily Chief
Whuric-Druid 91
Volar-Warrior 91
Doriz-Ranger 70
"Growing old is for people who have forgotten how to play."

Re: Ice Mage/Freeze Mage Discussion.

#14
That's just stupid. Don't think about "Fire mage", or "Ice mage". Do both. It's what mages are made for.

u need to MAX completely,

-Fire bolt (a MUST)
-Ice Shards
-Cloak of Fire
-Energy Shield
-Incinerate
-Fire lure (optional)
-Ice lure (optional)
-Bandage Wounds (optional)
Both of your Mage levels are fake lol and atone point the 100+ didn't even say it was a Mage and the secound one is like level 56
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Re: Ice Mage/Freeze Mage Discussion.

#15
That's just stupid. Don't think about "Fire mage", or "Ice mage". Do both. It's what mages are made for.

u need to MAX completely,

-Fire bolt (a MUST)
-Ice Shards
-Cloak of Fire
-Energy Shield
-Incinerate
-Fire lure (optional)
-Ice lure (optional)
-Bandage Wounds (optional)
Both of your Mage levels are fake lol and atone point the 100+ didn't even say it was a Mage and the secound one is like level 56
Well, he is more than entitled to his opinion regardless of circumstance is probably not reading this 'stupid' thread anymore anyway. The one thing I would say is that in terms of energy usage, Lures are probably not really optional, but based the research of others and my own tests, maxing Lures is also not a good investment.

Papi- this is a very cool build you are using. I am currently in full fire Mage AoE leveling mode with a tank and Druid. I should hit the energy stealing Wraiths soon and this becomes an aggro issue since the tank does not have energy for taunts/cry and everyone will die. I am working on a build where the Mage gives energy to the warrior using a sacrifice/boost/embrace combo to maintain aggro.

How many points are you putting into Sacrifice? I am running it at about 105 damage since the Embrace heals this.
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Re: Ice Mage/Freeze Mage Discussion.

#16
Just a suggestion
For defence I have dropped e shield lowered my focus to 275 snd put the rest in vit
They I moved all my skill points from med and boost and shield to bandage wounds and sacrifice.

I only use e shield to get a bandage off.

The bang for the buck o. Focus drops off so you really are not getti g your money's worth over 300
Having a more vit build let's Druids heal me, let's me heal myself and let's me use sacrifice.
Having a Druid near by means I never run out of e. I have enough vit that I can spam all my spells and sacrifice and my Druid keeps me embraced and touched. Soloing works well also.

This is just the defensive side. Offense can be any number of builds.

The point was bandage and sacrifice is a lot faster than meditate and boost.

I'm planning on dropping eshield too and going pure support.
Nerfed Mage ~140
Why play a class where skills cost more than other classes for same damage?
Why play a class with no auto attack?
Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
Why play a caster?

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Re: Ice Mage/Freeze Mage Discussion.

#17
That's just stupid. Don't think about "Fire mage", or "Ice mage". Do both. It's what mages are made for.

u need to MAX completely,

-Fire bolt (a MUST)
-Ice Shards
-Cloak of Fire
-Energy Shield
-Incinerate
-Fire lure (optional)
-Ice lure (optional)
-Bandage Wounds (optional)
Both of your Mage levels are fake lol and atone point the 100+ didn't even say it was a Mage and the secound one is like level 56
Well, he is more than entitled to his opinion regardless of circumstance is probably not reading this 'stupid' thread anymore anyway. The one thing I would say is that in terms of energy usage, Lures are probably not really optional, but based the research of others and my own tests, maxing Lures is also not a good investment.

Papi- this is a very cool build you are using. I am currently in full fire Mage AoE leveling mode with a tank and Druid. I should hit the energy stealing Wraiths soon and this becomes an aggro issue since the tank does not have energy for taunts/cry and everyone will die. I am working on a build where the Mage gives energy to the warrior using a sacrifice/boost/embrace combo to maintain aggro.

How many points are you putting into Sacrifice? I am running it at about 105 damage since the Embrace heals this.

No no, just skip ghosts till lvl 117. By that time you are past the energy stealing ones. Just do trees till 117-118. Then go to lvl 120+ ghosts.
Nerfed Mage ~140
Why play a class where skills cost more than other classes for same damage?
Why play a class with no auto attack?
Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
Why play a caster?

Copy this sig! :)

Wiki: http://www.wisdomunderground.com/wiki

Re: Ice Mage/Freeze Mage Discussion.

#18
Just a suggestion
For defence I have dropped e shield lowered my focus to 275 snd put the rest in vit
They I moved all my skill points from med and boost and shield to bandage wounds and sacrifice.

I only use e shield to get a bandage off.

The bang for the buck o. Focus drops off so you really are not getti g your money's worth over 300
Having a more vit build let's Druids heal me, let's me heal myself and let's me use sacrifice.
Having a Druid near by means I never run out of e. I have enough vit that I can spam all my spells and sacrifice and my Druid keeps me embraced and touched. Soloing works well also.

This is just the defensive side. Offense can be any number of builds.

The point was bandage and sacrifice is a lot faster than meditate and boost.

I'm planning on dropping eshield too and going pure support.
Now is this by choice or is it a necessity at higher levels?
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Re: Ice Mage/Freeze Mage Discussion.

#19
I personally wish that the devs got rid of lure ice and lure fire and instead combined them and call it lure elemental (or something), this would free up some points to place elsewhere and maybe allow us to make other builds. But regardless of this, I think it is extremely difficult to be able to make any other builds that we spread across different domains (support/group/solo/AOE etc). I wish we could.

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