Celtic Heroes

I've looked at your armour and I'm sure you have noticed I enjoy evaluating the game and strive to know alot about game mechanics. The armour trade-off doesnt necessarily have to be from survivability to dps. There are other benefits mages enjoy. A big one for me is having options.

Rogues pretty much just do dps. Mages have many options and many usable skills to choose from (I understand that this can sometimes be a double edged sword). Mages also have energy shield and freeze that allow for more hp and a quick heal. Once a rogue engages in a fight we have two options: Kill or be killed. I compare you directly to rogues because I am most familiar with rogues but I strongly believe that I could compare mage to every other class and find that they are not underpowered. I encourage you to get another class past 120 or so before making such a strong offensive move to buff mages.

Ok so armor is less on a Mage than a rogue and dps is at best equal.

Now look at auto attack DPS. If a rogues isn't at least 10x higher than a mage something is wrong.

Now mages also have energy issues even with full energization lux. A rogue does not.

Yes a Mage has eshield. But not every Mage uses it, it drains 30 pts, and only let's you take a couple extra hits. Does this make up for less armor? Mabye but at the cos of 30 points. The rogue gets the extra armor free.

Then you still have to account for mages pathetic auto and insane energy issues.

Well how much str do you have in your build? you can't expect good auto attacks with 5 strength. Also, what is your wand ability?

Additionally, hand to hand is a good option for mages because when you get agg drops the books use hand to hand ability. Put a trident or some other form of damage in your offhand and you will notice a significant difference in your auto attk ability.

Ok... But mage skills are based on focus and then we would have to split points to str.

Rogues skills and autos both benefit from strength.

Starting to get the picture on how underpowered mages are?

I see your argument about most of rogue damage coming from strength but dont forget that after 250 strength or so it is useless for a rogue to put more points in strength. This being said, There is likely a similar cap for mages on focus. Because of these caps, it makes it viable for you to put 50 points in strength without losing too much damage in your skills. (btw all of our non damage skills are supported by dex so we too have some decisions to make).

All of your arguements seem to be based around dps and like I stated earlier, mages have more options than straight dps. Rogues only have one purpose in life. I feel as though youre comparing apples to bananas. You may need to consider putting less than 30 points in your big energy draining skills. This allows more energy and more points, solving two problems at the same time. (yes I know this reduces your burst but in the long run it keeps you in the fight longer therefor increasing total dps)

as a side note, many rogues have stopped using skills entirely due to the fact that our autos are better dps. We are on opposite ends of the spectrum but you cant forget that all classes have their problems, mages are not unique in that aspect.

Lol he *** about low damage meleeing but doesn't gear for it and doesn't have stats for it, any class is like that.

Mages autos don't suck because mages are bad at them, it is because they don't have any stats to support them.

Also, I would trade armor with you if it allowed us to stand out of AOE range. If anything the ranger having better armor and being outside AOE is where it is unfair.

Rogues are probably the worst solo class in the game, but we don't care, we adapt.

Also, why should mages DPS be on par with rogue? They can do so much more. They can avoid aoe, use support buffs, regain them self and other energy, if they were on par with rogue dps that would just be broken.

Also rogues do have energy issues when it comes to skills, we just stopped using skills because they suck so bad, but having 35/35 in assassinate and 5 focus does not work, I can't even cast Assassinate with that, so we just drop our skills, similarly to how having 5 str and doing auto attacks on a mage does not work.

If anything we have more of a double edge sword because we need all 4 stats, vit for bandage, str for attack skills, dex for smoke bomb, posion wep, fast reflexes, and focus to have enough energy to actually cast anything.

I play all classes. I have a decent understanding of all classes. At hi levels all classes have major energy issues. Mages have the ability to produce energy , nobody else does.

The idea that you only hit for 30 with wand is based on your stats and gear, this is a choice you make not a requirement .

It's the same 2 mages complaining , all the rest probably want them to shut up at this point so otm doesn't look more closely and decide to nerf Mage because they are so badass now .

I play all classes. I have a decent understanding of all classes. At hi levels all classes have major energy issues. Mages have the ability to produce energy , nobody else does.

The idea that you only hit for 30 with wand is based on your stats and gear, this is a choice you make not a requirement .

It's the same 2 mages complaining , all the rest probably want them to shut up at this point so otm doesn't look more closely and decide to nerf Mage because they are so badass now .

What you can't get past that thick skull of yours is that we waste 10x more energy than we produce. And if we produce energy, we lose points to put in dps skills so we're basically worthless in *** attacking stuff.

It's the same 2 mages complaining , all the rest probably want them to shut up at this point so otm doesn't look more closely and decide to nerf Mage because they are so badass now .

What you can't get past that thick skull of yours is that we waste 10x more energy than we produce. And if we produce energy, we lose points to put in dps skills so we're basically worthless in *** attacking stuff.

Ok 3 of em .

10x my rosy red arse , exaggeration seems to be a Mage skill as well .

I understand a few minor tweaks might be needed for Mage , certainly no more than ANY other class at this point .

These posts of " do not play a Mage " are just nonsense and I would expect high level mages to agree with me there.

Well how much str do you have in your build? you can't expect good auto attacks with 5 strength. Also, what is your wand ability?

Additionally, hand to hand is a good option for mages because when you get agg drops the books use hand to hand ability. Put a trident or some other form of damage in your offhand and you will notice a significant difference in your auto attk ability.

To answer you Tony, hes a typical rogue rogues dont know **** bout mages. Lol go home Dog yur drunk (if you play a mage) >.<

Well how much str do you have in your build? you can't expect good auto attacks with 5 strength. Also, what is your wand ability?

Additionally, hand to hand is a good option for mages because when you get agg drops the books use hand to hand ability. Put a trident or some other form of damage in your offhand and you will notice a significant difference in your auto attk ability.

To answer you Tony, hes a typical rogue rogues dont know **** bout mages. Lol go home Dog yur drunk (if you play a mage) >.<

lol as a rogue, I've learned alot about auto attacks :p you chose to leave off my second post where I explained the context of the above quote.

lol no I'm very serious. I understand the reasons why some mages dont do this but in alot of your posts you state that auto attack is so great. I'm just reminding you that you also have an auto attack button, you just choose not to use it. losing 50 focus for strength wont hurt you that bad and can make a significant difference in your damage and the trident gives a flat damage as well as some strength bonus and has regen.

admittedly, I do not have a high lvl mage and cannot say that I have personally tried this but a basic understanding of the game leads me to believe that this would help to ease your pain. (youre going to need to lvl your hand to hand ability before you bash this)

out of curiousity, what lvl are you xilo?

Remind me where I said use strength? Strength is useless on mages