Celtic Heroes

Use a fire build. I will tell you now, do NOT use an ice build. Ridiculous energy costs, bad risks of evades, and it isn't that much more damage than a fire build. Plus if you use ice blast, then ice shards, and the mob isn't dead, you have to wait for cooldown by which time you will most likely be dead

Won't cancel out, the ice attunement will just be resisted.

Ok that is interesting. I just re-read the descriptions.
Ice attunement "cannot be cast while under the influence of fire attunement"
But casting fire attunement will cancel out a previously-cast ice attune.

So in rock-paper-scissors style, it appears fire beats ice

Fire build is for a stable dps output while ice build is risky, but allows total obliteration in seconds if everything went out right.

Fire build: Constant output, fast cooldown so it's worth it to invest in vit to take some hits.
Max fire attune
max firebolt
max firestorm
points in lure (half max for training, more pts for pvp)
rest pts up to you

Stat: split point btwn focus and vit.

Strategy: Lure and fire away!


Ice build: Total annihilation in seconds, very risky, one evade and ur dead, cooked up some backups though, no vit investment, not worth the hits, just die if you get evaded.

Max ice attune
max shards
max blast
pts in lure (half max for training, more pts for pvp)
pts in freeze (to your requirement)
rest pts up to you

Stat: everything in focus, maybe a little vit if you want though I don't think it's worth it, cooldown too long so you die anyway if you screw up
Strategy: 1* mobs: relatively simple, kill it immediately! Freeze, lure, blast, and shards, mob can't even touch you, you can't be touched b/c then u'll die.
higher rank mobs: Here's when it gets tricky, you will need some vit, or pts in eshield, lure blast shard freeze wait, shard and 2* mobs should die.
For 3* mobs, Freeze wait lure blast shards take some hits freeze wait blast shards repeat should be dead
Same for 4* mobs, though I would recommend grping for any mobs higher than 3*.

Both builds are great, if you are someone who likes taking risks ice build, if you are someone who want to go with the safe then fire build.

Won't cancel out, the ice attunement will just be resisted.

Ok that is interesting. I just re-read the descriptions.
Ice attunement "cannot be cast while under the influence of fire attunement"
But casting fire attunement will cancel out a previously-cast ice attune.

So in rock-paper-scissors style, it appears fire beats ice

The probablity of melting ice by cooking it over fire is higher than the probability of fire getting extinguished by a block of ice. I think it's that way.

I am a fire and I think it's way batter then ice

Id say fire for training ice for bossing
Do something like the build above you cant cast 2 attunes so stick to fire
Also when firestorm gets at a high lvl it uses a decent ammount of energy compared to firebolt may wanna back off some points on firestorm and put them into lure when u get higher

oh right, so either way i dont use ice attune
and i think fire would be better even for bossing, our ice mages dont get as much kills as fire mages (not that we got tons of high mages), and i wouldnt call them crappy cuz they prob can beat most of the mages here

Lol lvl 73 mage knows how to do things listen to him :p if ur a mage and under lvl 120 u havent even experienced any energy problems or anything yet 120+ is when things get difficult i wouldnt listen to any mage under lvl 100 most dont know what there talking about if ur still looking for a build do firebolt firestorm icehard for dps rest of skills for lure/shield/boost attune if u need these skills combined makes the best dps build iceblast has to long of timer and the avoids/energy makes it not worth the points when training

Reason i said ice for bossing is most mages boss in a group with a tank and such making ice a very hefty hit max fire lure n fire skills i hit like 1k - 2.5k on snorri were as a full ice build n lire i easily hit 4-7k now for recast ect for timing dps ect in long run on bosses ice does almost 2x the dmg of fire

If u have a higher lvl then u have a lvl advantage wont need lures ect i stick to 2 different builds my main one is firebolt/firestorm/iceshard/freeze/sheild/fire attune
My second build is reversed and works good in some methods of training/bossing
Iceshard/iceblast/firebolt/freeze/sheild/ice attune

Most mages in my world are fire making the second build a big adavantage hit ur maxes with ur ice hits then ride the fire lure of the enemy making ur bolt stronger..

Many different build depends who u play with if u group or solo were and wat skills ur enemies use ect
Learn ur surroundings and ur enemies and your build will come naturally

Id say fire for training ice for bossing
Do something like the build above you cant cast 2 attunes so stick to fire
Also when firestorm gets at a high lvl it uses a decent ammount of energy compared to firebolt may wanna back off some points on firestorm and put them into lure when u get higher

oh right, so either way i dont use ice attune
and i think fire would be better even for bossing, our ice mages dont get as much kills as fire mages (not that we got tons of high mages), and i wouldnt call them crappy cuz they prob can beat most of the mages here

Lol lvl 73 mage knows how to do things listen to him :p if ur a mage and under lvl 120 u havent even experienced any energy problems or anything yet 120+ is when things get difficult i wouldnt listen to any mage under lvl 100 most dont know what there talking about if ur still looking for a build do firebolt firestorm icehard for dps rest of skills for lure/shield/boost attune if u need these skills combined makes the best dps build iceblast has to long of timer and the avoids/energy makes it not worth the points when training

Reason i said ice for bossing is most mages boss in a group with a tank and such making ice a very hefty hit max fire lure n fire skills i hit like 1k - 2.5k on snorri were as a full ice build n lire i easily hit 4-7k now for recast ect for timing dps ect in long run on bosses ice does almost 2x the dmg of fire

If u have a higher lvl then u have a lvl advantage wont need lures ect i stick to 2 different builds my main one is firebolt/firestorm/iceshard/freeze/sheild/fire attune
My second build is reversed and works good in some methods of training/bossing
Iceshard/iceblast/firebolt/freeze/sheild/ice attune

Most mages in my world are fire making the second build a big adavantage hit ur maxes with ur ice hits then ride the fire lure of the enemy making ur bolt stronger..

Many different build depends who u play with if u group or solo were and wat skills ur enemies use ect
Learn ur surroundings and ur enemies and your build will come naturally

Spoonz, i didnt suggest something for energy issues, i dont bother with those much (i will suggest E.boost/sacrifice for the non-plat buyers, unless u got better idea than 'buy plat'), mostly since i myself dont care to pot + use elixirs

he asked whats better for dps, if u argue on what has better dps, argue with all the mages who suggested fire build, not the lvl 73 one, most of my classes are low lvls, yet i dont have a lack of knowledge in them, saying i do, wont really matter, if any lvl 190 mage thinks hes a pro mage being lvl 190 with sigils and freeze, he didnt experience the energy issues as well, hard to admit, but its true.

I think u need to reread his question lol doesnt say anything about 'whats better dps'

I think u need to reread his question lol doesnt say anything about 'whats better dps'

fire build? or ice? i suggested.... fire for as someone else named, 'stable' dps, i find fire build better same as most of other mages
anything else?

Evades are just too cruel for ice. I burned a few alts today trying to play with ice. Frostbite is garbage compared to using fire bolt without lure of fire.

Fire bolt is the best dps skill and should be included regardless of which you specialize in. High damage, low energy cost, fast recharge.