I rarely used energy elixirs while grinding because of sacrifice. I would use a royal sacrifice ring with the ancient beastbone hat for an instant 250 energy every 6 or 7 seconds. I advise using rings for points in sacrifice so that you don't have to waste skill points and can change rings for the given situation. I also have 400 energy sigils, but sacrifice allowed me to continue without slowing down for sigils.
As for the person that said increase focus to help with energy problems, that is just silly. Energy recovery is way more important than maximum energy. Putting the points in vitality makes more sense as you will be able to recover energy to maintain your spell casting.
I'm currently running with 600 vitality and 315 focus, not including items. Both Fire Bolt and Firestorm hit over 4500, and I have over 4500 health with no energy problems thanks to sacrifice.
Sorry to get off subject, but I currently feel bad for druid mains. I've been trying to play my druid as main now and energy management is a nightmare. Energy Harvest is HORRIBLE!!! I suppose this is for another thread and doesn't need a reply.
Re: Sacrifice
#12@massadu
thats my whole point
you shouldnt have tons of hp
if you have too much hp and not enough energy just rebirth and put your points into focus in the first place
thats my whole point
you shouldnt have tons of hp
if you have too much hp and not enough energy just rebirth and put your points into focus in the first place
Danu:
Deathreaver - level 136 Warrior
Flametongue - level 62 Mage
Deathreaver - level 136 Warrior
Flametongue - level 62 Mage
Re: Sacrifice
#13this is actually the flaw i find with mages
they have TWO conversion abilities
sacrifice and energy shield
one takes hp and gives energy
the other gives hp and takes energy
just put your stats where you want them in the first place and dont waste your points on conversions
they have TWO conversion abilities
sacrifice and energy shield
one takes hp and gives energy
the other gives hp and takes energy
just put your stats where you want them in the first place and dont waste your points on conversions
Danu:
Deathreaver - level 136 Warrior
Flametongue - level 62 Mage
Deathreaver - level 136 Warrior
Flametongue - level 62 Mage
Re: Sacrifice
#14I have 4,500 health, using 315 focus and 600 vitality. 1 focus is = to 1 damage. I'd rather heave the health over the 300 extra damage that I'd never see because of how damage varies.@massadu
thats my whole point
you shouldnt have tons of hp
if you have too much hp and not enough energy just rebirth and put your points into focus in the first place
You have a lvl 41 mage and you're giving very poor advice. Your advice would have worked before the expansion, but the new update requires health. Try going to a Dragon Lord boss kill with less than 3,000 health. Regardless of what your energy shield is, you're going to be waiting for idols. The AOE can hit up to 2,000 and it comes every 30 seconds or so. You need the extra health to give your druids time to heal you within 3 aoe's. Chosen Firbolgs can also hit up to 2000.
Lvl 191 Mage, to lazy to level past that.
Lvl 150 Druid
Rhiannon
Lvl 150 Druid
Rhiannon
Re: Sacrifice
#15when did i ever mention damage?
yes the damage you almost never see
im telling you to put it in focus in the first place if YOU ARE IN NEED OF ENERGY and feel that you have enough health to be able to sacrifice some of it
dont judge by levels bobert
i dont need to have a high level mage to know about them
and read my earlier posts
is a lvl 100 going to be killing mordris?
nope
yes the damage you almost never see
im telling you to put it in focus in the first place if YOU ARE IN NEED OF ENERGY and feel that you have enough health to be able to sacrifice some of it
dont judge by levels bobert
i dont need to have a high level mage to know about them
and read my earlier posts
is a lvl 100 going to be killing mordris?
nope
Danu:
Deathreaver - level 136 Warrior
Flametongue - level 62 Mage
Deathreaver - level 136 Warrior
Flametongue - level 62 Mage
Re: Sacrifice
#16The only problem with adding more energy is that it doesn't increase your recovery. Energy recovery is the only solution to energy problems. More energy just means you'll cast a few more spells before you run out, but what do you do when you run out? The extra health allows you to regen your health through sacrifice, when needed. If you use sacrifice while eshield is up, you don't lose any health.
From my experience leveling in this game, I find sacrifice to be a decent skill. I've always used 5-6 points in it up until beastbone. I acquired a Royal ring so I can get an instant 250 energy every 9-10 seconds. Using sacrifice is also a great way for a fire mage to level ice. My ice kept up with my fire while leveling because of sacrifice.
There's a hidden bonus with sacrifice. You could spare a few skill points for it and do a decent job of maintaining energy, which means you could buy HP sigils instead of energy sigils.
Once you can wear ancient beastbone hat, you're going to love sacrifice.
From my experience leveling in this game, I find sacrifice to be a decent skill. I've always used 5-6 points in it up until beastbone. I acquired a Royal ring so I can get an instant 250 energy every 9-10 seconds. Using sacrifice is also a great way for a fire mage to level ice. My ice kept up with my fire while leveling because of sacrifice.
There's a hidden bonus with sacrifice. You could spare a few skill points for it and do a decent job of maintaining energy, which means you could buy HP sigils instead of energy sigils.
Once you can wear ancient beastbone hat, you're going to love sacrifice.
Lvl 191 Mage, to lazy to level past that.
Lvl 150 Druid
Rhiannon
Lvl 150 Druid
Rhiannon
Re: Sacrifice
#17oh so thats what you mean
true its hard to regen energy when you have so much...but regenerating hp is practically the same thing
just get energy sigils instead of hp sigils when you buy plat
if you buy off a player and the only available sigil seems to be hp...then i see why you would wanna use sacrifice but thats like the only reason you would use sacrifice
true its hard to regen energy when you have so much...but regenerating hp is practically the same thing
just get energy sigils instead of hp sigils when you buy plat
if you buy off a player and the only available sigil seems to be hp...then i see why you would wanna use sacrifice but thats like the only reason you would use sacrifice
Danu:
Deathreaver - level 136 Warrior
Flametongue - level 62 Mage
Deathreaver - level 136 Warrior
Flametongue - level 62 Mage
Re: Sacrifice
#18Energy boost is 10x better. At least imoLooking at your sig you have no idea what you are talking about, putting more points into focus will only increase you energy amount, where as sacrifice converts your health into energy and regens a certain amount, whilst putting points into focus will ultimately just give you more energy to cast skills and doesn't regen it.it converts your health to energy
pretty bad skill if you ask me
just put your points into focus in the first place and you wont have to waste skill points on a skill that just converts stuff
So sacrifice IMO is actually one of the decent skills OTM made.
Re: Sacrifice
#19I m done with lvling , i dont need more hp , if u r careful with aoe , 4k of hp , u waste ur points . Ofc for lvling , i say +1 to ur build
I dont have 300 foc more than u lol , i have 1500 focus
(Firebolt 5800 , firestorm 6500 , inci 1800/tick )
Not sure u have that dmg
And as i told u , since i m only for bossfight , i dont need energy regen for all 5* and 6* lvl 155- and i use a energy lix for 6* 155+

I dont have 300 foc more than u lol , i have 1500 focus
(Firebolt 5800 , firestorm 6500 , inci 1800/tick )
Not sure u have that dmg

And as i told u , since i m only for bossfight , i dont need energy regen for all 5* and 6* lvl 155- and i use a energy lix for 6* 155+
Re: Sacrifice
#20I think both e-boost and sacrifice are equally useful skills, and each has certain advantages over the other. It mostly boils down to individual styles of play and preference.
As has been stated already, with an ancient beastbone helm sacrifice is boosted further so that even if boost is more in-keeping with your set-up, it can still be nice to have sacrifice on hand with but a single point at times.
As a side note to deathreaver, I would just like to say that it is not my intention to be disparaging at all. I'm am in no way of an elitist mind, and I respect everyone's right to an opinion. Neither am i trying to dissuade you from posting. All I would say though, is whilst I think it's great you care enough about the mage class to post this actively in this section (and certainly the forum could benefit from increased activity atm), I do believe that posting with an air of authority and certainty but without the experience to match it, can actually do more harm than good.
I do not care that your mage is of a low level (level 41 was quoted earlier) nor that it is presently a hobby class to occupy you when you want a break from your main (which you use for farming amongst other things so need give no thought to this aspect of a mage). It would simply be nice if you would consider the manner of your posts, especially when dismissing the concerns of players for whom the mage is a class they have invested heavily in. On this post you have until your last response, fervently dismissed the very sound arguments for the validity of energy regen skills and advocated instead to simply take points from vitality to dump into focus as a false fix. On another post, you recommend taking points out of focus and pumping them into vitality which you suggest is better than having e-shield (and again giving little thought to regen). These two suggestions are clearly opposed one from the other, and yet both of these you have argued as the path to take and despite reasoned arguments to the contrary.
I am not suggesting you haven't gleaned some knowledge whilst perusing the mage forum posts, but you should understand that this is not the same thing as wisdom. You cannot simply, and without due consideration, hammer together random ideas that you have have heard like some ill-fitting jigsaw and expect to end up with something sound.
Like I say, chap, I don't want to cause offence, and hope you stay every bit as active on the forum, but to my way of thinking it would just be nice if you wouldn't assert to hold all the answers to questions that have yet to be posed of you.
As has been stated already, with an ancient beastbone helm sacrifice is boosted further so that even if boost is more in-keeping with your set-up, it can still be nice to have sacrifice on hand with but a single point at times.
As a side note to deathreaver, I would just like to say that it is not my intention to be disparaging at all. I'm am in no way of an elitist mind, and I respect everyone's right to an opinion. Neither am i trying to dissuade you from posting. All I would say though, is whilst I think it's great you care enough about the mage class to post this actively in this section (and certainly the forum could benefit from increased activity atm), I do believe that posting with an air of authority and certainty but without the experience to match it, can actually do more harm than good.
I do not care that your mage is of a low level (level 41 was quoted earlier) nor that it is presently a hobby class to occupy you when you want a break from your main (which you use for farming amongst other things so need give no thought to this aspect of a mage). It would simply be nice if you would consider the manner of your posts, especially when dismissing the concerns of players for whom the mage is a class they have invested heavily in. On this post you have until your last response, fervently dismissed the very sound arguments for the validity of energy regen skills and advocated instead to simply take points from vitality to dump into focus as a false fix. On another post, you recommend taking points out of focus and pumping them into vitality which you suggest is better than having e-shield (and again giving little thought to regen). These two suggestions are clearly opposed one from the other, and yet both of these you have argued as the path to take and despite reasoned arguments to the contrary.
I am not suggesting you haven't gleaned some knowledge whilst perusing the mage forum posts, but you should understand that this is not the same thing as wisdom. You cannot simply, and without due consideration, hammer together random ideas that you have have heard like some ill-fitting jigsaw and expect to end up with something sound.
Like I say, chap, I don't want to cause offence, and hope you stay every bit as active on the forum, but to my way of thinking it would just be nice if you wouldn't assert to hold all the answers to questions that have yet to be posed of you.