Celtic Heroes

That is so baseless. It's like sayin we can kill necro in 15m with all rogues having ss n life steal in build as well as saying all mages go ice build on raid bosses. Both can be accomplished at this point in game, but it's not the best way is it? Al I'm saying is assassinate is TRASH as a dps skill to be run in a daily build. Sneaky, ss,qs, double and poison wep/rend is by far the best. Not some broken skill. Then again ur a mage so won't understand anything what I said.

I know the builds our rogues are running and I know their mindset on these things. Anything that hits higher then your auto attack is an increase in dps.

You may not agree with this, fine. I have an end game mage and a semi end-game rogue. Idk why your so arrogant to say I have no knowledge on these things. Our server is by far not the worst, so how can we be on top with such sucky rogues?

To come back on your ice mage example. A good geared ice mage can get the kill on mordy for sure. At gele ice mages are a must for the crystals. Ice is decent on hrung. Just an off topic question to you: what is it with you being against ice mages?

That is so baseless. It's like sayin we can kill necro in 15m with all rogues having ss n life steal in build as well as saying all mages go ice build on raid bosses. Both can be accomplished at this point in game, but it's not the best way is it? Al I'm saying is assassinate is TRASH as a dps skill to be run in a daily build. Sneaky, ss,qs, double and poison wep/rend is by far the best. Not some broken skill. Then again ur a mage so won't understand anything what I said.

I know the builds our rogues are running and I know their mindset on these things. Anything that hits higher then your auto attack is an increase in dps.

You may not agree with this, fine. I have an end game mage and a semi end-game rogue. Idk why your so arrogant to say I have no knowledge on these things. Our server is by far not the worst, so how can we be on top with such sucky rogues?

To come back on your ice mage example. A good geared ice mage can get the kill on mordy for sure. At gele ice mages are a must for the crystals. Ice is decent on hrung. Just an off topic question to you: what is it with you being against ice mages?

He hates me that's why ;p

That is so baseless. It's like sayin we can kill necro in 15m with all rogues having ss n life steal in build as well as saying all mages go ice build on raid bosses. Both can be accomplished at this point in game, but it's not the best way is it? Al I'm saying is assassinate is TRASH as a dps skill to be run in a daily build. Sneaky, ss,qs, double and poison wep/rend is by far the best. Not some broken skill. Then again ur a mage so won't understand anything what I said.

I know the builds our rogues are running and I know their mindset on these things. Anything that hits higher then your auto attack is an increase in dps.

You may not agree with this, fine. I have an end game mage and a semi end-game rogue. Idk why your so arrogant to say I have no knowledge on these things. Our server is by far not the worst, so how can we be on top with such sucky rogues?

To come back on your ice mage example. A good geared ice mage can get the kill on mordy for sure. At gele ice mages are a must for the crystals. Ice is decent on hrung. Just an off topic question to you: what is it with you being against ice mages?

I wasn't targeting you or your server. People who read these forums, especially ones new to end game will absorb and follow it. And gets the wrong info. If your rogues are happy with it and it shows, fair enough,although I would strongly disagree, lets just agree to disagree there.

About ice mage comparison. Isn't that what the whole mage forums universe been sayin all these time? Pure fire build >pure ice build. I'm not against a build, just stating indirectly fire is better off. If u read my first comment I was actually against a separate fire n ice leaderboard, supporting them actually.

@wolf lub ya bale :p

Its sad that ice is weaker on equal terms. I must say that Ive used a lvl 208 mage on mordy recently, and since all lures were covered I had used a build that had the skills : Firebolt, Firestorm, Fire Attune, Incinerate, Ice Shards and Ice Blast (and freeze but that isnt dps). No one told me if that mage got the kill or not, but in the end it got the aggro for few moments, and I did adds too.

Assassinate isnt a bad skill, its just not the best. The false idea of it being evaded more than other skills has no base to it, as Assassinate is also based on Physical Evasion like Quick Strike. Assassinate has an upside in it's downside, as it has very slow cooldown, u can use very little points in it and swap to maximize it's dps for few seconds and then swap back to normal gear, giving u lvl 50 assassinate with even lvl 30 base Assassinate (if u have ring with +10 on it and brace with +10, but ofc u can go with more base points as u prob dont have the two items), that way u made ur assassinate far stronger than it could be while sacrificing nothing for it, as u also save skill pts for something else.

Overall, find whats the strong point of Assassinate and use it wisely, its a skill that fits well Necro, as necro in his last 5% regens fast, and it'll be smart to dmg him faster than he heals with a large dmg skill.

To come back on your ice mage example. A good geared ice mage can get the kill on mordy for sure. At gele ice mages are a must for the crystals. Ice is decent on hrung. Just an off topic question to you: what is it with you being against ice mages?

How sure are you that an ice mage can get kill on mord? Mord has equal fire and ice resist. Fire is significantly better dps than ice assuming equal resists. Therefore fire is better than ice on mord. Or are you referring back to the days when all your mages glitched offhand to use edl skill every 3-4 secs? If so, yeah duh an ice mage could get kill. You could have also gotten kill with a full dex build and no skills using that offhand glitch lol.

Also "ice mages" aren't a necessity for crystals. Why be simple minded and pick only two good dps skills when you could use three? Ie: "ice mage" should use shards blast bolt. "fire mage" should use bolt storm shards, at a bare minimum

To come back on your ice mage example. A good geared ice mage can get the kill on mordy for sure. At gele ice mages are a must for the crystals. Ice is decent on hrung. Just an off topic question to you: what is it with you being against ice mages?

How sure are you that an ice mage can get kill on mord? Mord has equal fire and ice resist. Fire is significantly better dps than ice assuming equal resists. Therefore fire is better than ice on mord. Or are you referring back to the days when all your mages glitched offhand to use edl skill every 3-4 secs? If so, yeah duh an ice mage could get kill. You could have also gotten kill with a full dex build and no skills using that offhand glitch lol.

Also "ice mages" aren't a necessity for crystals. Why be simple minded and pick only two good dps skills when you could use three? Ie: "ice mage" should use shards blast bolt. "fire mage" should use bolt storm shards, at a bare minimum

How many times has Rhiannon killed gelebron? I ask this because you assume you know what you're talking about with crystals

None, but what difference does that make?

To come back on your ice mage example. A good geared ice mage can get the kill on mordy for sure. At gele ice mages are a must for the crystals. Ice is decent on hrung. Just an off topic question to you: what is it with you being against ice mages?

How sure are you that an ice mage can get kill on mord? Mord has equal fire and ice resist. Fire is significantly better dps than ice assuming equal resists. Therefore fire is better than ice on mord. Or are you referring back to the days when all your mages glitched offhand to use edl skill every 3-4 secs? If so, yeah duh an ice mage could get kill. You could have also gotten kill with a full dex build and no skills using that offhand glitch lol.

Also "ice mages" aren't a necessity for crystals. Why be simple minded and pick only two good dps skills when you could use three? Ie: "ice mage" should use shards blast bolt. "fire mage" should use bolt storm shards, at a bare minimum

How many times has Rhiannon killed gelebron? I ask this because you assume you know what you're talking about with crystals

Well if to be fair, how many times has fingal or donn killed Gelebron?

If ur trying to make some smartass comment at least know if its ur in the right position to do that.

I play on ios as a druid, and yes I've killed gelebron, so yes I know my position to speak.

Now go back to playing your clairvoyant warrior

To come back on your ice mage example. A good geared ice mage can get the kill on mordy for sure. At gele ice mages are a must for the crystals. Ice is decent on hrung. Just an off topic question to you: what is it with you being against ice mages?

How sure are you that an ice mage can get kill on mord? Mord has equal fire and ice resist. Fire is significantly better dps than ice assuming equal resists. Therefore fire is better than ice on mord. Or are you referring back to the days when all your mages glitched offhand to use edl skill every 3-4 secs? If so, yeah duh an ice mage could get kill. You could have also gotten kill with a full dex build and no skills using that offhand glitch lol.

Also "ice mages" aren't a necessity for crystals. Why be simple minded and pick only two good dps skills when you could use three? Ie: "ice mage" should use shards blast bolt. "fire mage" should use bolt storm shards, at a bare minimum

I can say this because a clanny of mine got the kill on mordy with some of our best dps there. Ofcourse you can say now that our rogues and rangers suck, they are pretty good. The ice mage just was slightly better.

And our mages do run the build you are talking about. Our fire mages have shards and freeze as fourth and fifth skill.
Our ice mages have bolt and freeze as their fourth and fifth skill.

The reason why you need both is because 1 'extra' dps skill wont cut it against the crystals. 1 shard only does like 5% on a xtal, while several ice mages and the fire mages with the extra ice skill straight up destroy the crystals. Maybe you should try this out for your next gele attempt? It works pretty well for us.