Celtic Heroes

Damage is fine - Defense on bosses needs to be reduced for melee to be competitive and mages could use some minor defensive compensation for the burst lost in the nerfs for leveling/survival purposes.

Elim is right though. At the moment I haven't lost a single boss kill. I'm well geared but so is our top rogue and she doesn't stand a chance due to miss rate.

Miss rate and a few skills which are underpowered
Rend- nothing compared to incin should be 100%+ better as its not stackable
Sneak- the cast time is simply too long we hardly get any extra damage from it and its costs 200 mana
Shadow- its bit weak but i just dont see how its evadeable lol it shouldn't be
Smoke bomb- it lasts 1/3 of the time as a lure(i think 1 min right) an ld it increases my dps by like 5%(educated guess) while a lure increases my dps by 500%(no joke)
Expose weakness- mages lures effect both skills and auto rogues have 2 skills that they need to effect skills and auto separately. Just crazy.

Rogues and rangers need a buff still rangers skills are just useless. I think mages need a 20% armour increase and energy boost needs to take less time to cast(its why mages dont like it i think) other then that they are fine. The fact an aoe attack was doing more then 1v1 attack was stupid and at least thats fixed now

Well ive done alot testing rogue/mage.....and rangers just get 160 wyrmbone its beast over any other class weapon

Groups bosses/levelin......long and short fights

Its 50/50 ......including evades/misses etc etc

Good competition if u ask me the way it should be

This is where intensive testing and build changes trust me ive done 60 alts/rebirths books in 3 days.....tweaking here and there ( you make think im crazy......but you be surprised at results ....you eventually find a build that works )

I think skills/cooldowns/ for all classes just need improving......but damage NO

I think we should be.....SUPPORTING DRUIDS NOW ( cause they got it bad ) instead

Well ive done alot testing rogue/mage.....and rangers just get 160 wyrmbone its beast over any other class weapon

Groups bosses/levelin......long and short fights

Its 50/50 ......including evades/misses etc etc

Good competition if u ask me the way it should be

This is where intensive testing and build changes trust me ive done 60 alts/rebirths books in 3 days.....tweaking here and there ( you make think im crazy......but you be surprised at results ....you eventually find a build that works )

I think skills/cooldowns/ for all classes just need improving......but damage NO

I think we should be.....SUPPORTING DRUIDS NOW ( cause they got it bad ) instead

Ur telling me barbed shot. A skill which can only be used by 1 player at a time because they can't stack(same as rend) does enough damage bs! That should be one of best skills. As for rangers a ranger can haste or super combo and a mage gets kill we have a ranger who is much like elim just as good i would say but cant get kills from our mages any of them.(not a bash at elim) i cant get kill over best mage and my gear is amazing. Few skills need a look at only damage increase for rogues should be rend(it sucks) other skills need a tweak in other ways.
Rangers sharpshot needs an increase and long shot by about 1.5-2x damage there sharp shot needs same as rend.
Rend should do 1.5x initial damage and x2 damage overtime it is doing now.

Mages are missing one thing: Auto-attacks. And we don't have haste elixers that make us cast super-fast either. I understand u people seem to miss a lot, but guess what, the reality is mages do too.

Wtf ya talkin about ? First you have plat items you can use , energy pots , restos , super energy lix energizer lix , super combo . Second , you have hth and 700 damage from lux your auto is as good as any other class whn lure is considered. 3rd dude I have a 150 Mage I don't need a lesson on skills missing some of "us people" know wtf we are talkin about

Are you denying Mage is best dps ? Best burst damage? Best aoe attacks ? Best offensive support ? Best energy support ?

Basically I asked what rogue or ranger is best at and you said they have good weapons , well so what ? The dps with those great weapons still does not stack up against Mage .

You don't seem to understand , I'm getting beat by mages in xp and bosses even if I am on haste or combo , lol it's a joke at this point man please spare me any typeof explanation how Mage isn't pwning this game , even with the nerf.

Why are you the only player saying mages deserve the big nerft ?

I mean they pacth it 20% increase that is really 10% to original damage. So skill got nerfted 35% total , they increase it the damage variation , miss rate , on the nuke skill they finnaly got. So for mage the was using the skill i see a total 60% real reduction .

When did I ask for any type of nerf ? I'm just stating the obvious , mages are ahead , I want other classes boosted not any class nerfed. I do however think it's funny how well mages complain compared to every other class , it's amazing actually lol rangers need to cry lke you guys do. I mean 28 pages and y'all are still the best by far.

Well ive done alot testing rogue/mage.....and rangers just get 160 wyrmbone its beast over any other class weapon

Groups bosses/levelin......long and short fights

Its 50/50 ......including evades/misses etc etc

Good competition if u ask me the way it should be

This is where intensive testing and build changes trust me ive done 60 alts/rebirths books in 3 days.....tweaking here and there ( you make think im crazy......but you be surprised at results ....you eventually find a build that works )

I think skills/cooldowns/ for all classes just need improving......but damage NO

I think we should be.....SUPPORTING DRUIDS NOW ( cause they got it bad ) instead

Either we are playing different games or your mages have crap gear/builds .

Well ive done alot testing rogue/mage.....and rangers just get 160 wyrmbone its beast over any other class weapon

Groups bosses/levelin......long and short fights

Its 50/50 ......including evades/misses etc etc

Good competition if u ask me the way it should be

This is where intensive testing and build changes trust me ive done 60 alts/rebirths books in 3 days.....tweaking here and there ( you make think im crazy......but you be surprised at results ....you eventually find a build that works )

I think skills/cooldowns/ for all classes just need improving......but damage NO

I think we should be.....SUPPORTING DRUIDS NOW ( cause they got it bad ) instead

Either we are playing different games or your mages have crap gear/builds .

nope none of the above.....just cause u aint figured out a way to out dps others dont meen nothing.....go away and do some intense testing ( i meen vigourous ) not just hear say from others

i locked myself away for 3 days......havent been on forums ranting n raving

you need to rediscover the class you love and wat it good for at present .....then you be happy

Well ive done alot testing rogue/mage.....and rangers just get 160 wyrmbone its beast over any other class weapon

Groups bosses/levelin......long and short fights

Its 50/50 ......including evades/misses etc etc

Good competition if u ask me the way it should be

This is where intensive testing and build changes trust me ive done 60 alts/rebirths books in 3 days.....tweaking here and there ( you make think im crazy......but you be surprised at results ....you eventually find a build that works )

I think skills/cooldowns/ for all classes just need improving......but damage NO

I think we should be.....SUPPORTING DRUIDS NOW ( cause they got it bad ) instead

Either we are playing different games or your mages have crap gear/builds .

nope none of the above.....just cause u aint figured out a way to out dps others dont meen nothing.....go away and do some intense testing ( i meen vigourous ) not just hear say from others

i locked myself away for 3 days......havent been on forums ranting n raving

you need to rediscover the class you love and wat it good for at present .....then you be happy

Ok so it's the gear? Dude I've done more build testing with current ranger than anyone playing the game lol

Well ive done alot testing rogue/mage.....and rangers just get 160 wyrmbone its beast over any other class weapon

Groups bosses/levelin......long and short fights

Its 50/50 ......including evades/misses etc etc

Good competition if u ask me the way it should be

This is where intensive testing and build changes trust me ive done 60 alts/rebirths books in 3 days.....tweaking here and there ( you make think im crazy......but you be surprised at results ....you eventually find a build that works )

I think skills/cooldowns/ for all classes just need improving......but damage NO

I think we should be.....SUPPORTING DRUIDS NOW ( cause they got it bad ) instead

Either we are playing different games or your mages have crap gear/builds .

nope none of the above.....just cause u aint figured out a way to out dps others dont meen nothing.....go away and do some intense testing ( i meen vigourous ) not just hear say from others

i locked myself away for 3 days......havent been on forums ranting n raving

you need to rediscover the class you love and wat it good for at present .....then you be happy

Can you do me a favor. Instead of saying this state your level and build your equips and the lvl and build of the rogues and mage your going up against and there equip. A mage in my clan can have almost 1000 focus as full vit stats. I think he put 58 into focus and he had 1000 focus....i would love you to state your build though and who you are up against. But Barbed and rend both need a massive increase at the least. It is a skill which only 1 person can cast on a boss. It should make a huge different esp when its high.

Either we are playing different games or your mages have crap gear/builds .[/quote]

nope none of the above.....just cause u aint figured out a way to out dps others dont meen nothing.....go away and do some intense testing ( i meen vigourous ) not just hear say from others

i locked myself away for 3 days......havent been on forums ranting n raving

you need to rediscover the class you love and wat it good for at present .....then you be happy[/quote]

Ok so it's the gear? Dude I've done more build testing with current ranger than anyone playing the game lol[/quote]

so what are you trying to accomplish then with just your ranger? ( dont tell me kills in group cause thats old fashion ) this is not how to play a ranger effectively anymore......move on

try your other classes if you aint happy....enjoy

anyways back to mage topics for the future

Just looking for balance , yes I think ranger skills need a dramatic damage boost but what I would like more than anything is for ranger support skills to be made much much better, it makes no sense for one support class to only be effective while another support class is in the group.

The classes are not currently balanced , if you think they are , you are the only one playing the game at a high level (I assume) who thinks so.