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Re: Ice vs Fire

#72
Just means you didn't have any decent fire mages on during your 6* kills
Correct me if I am wrong, but....what I'm reading is that if there was a "decent" fire mage I would not have gotten lock or kill? Interesting!!

Here is my series of hits...ice lure, shards 9-12K, firebolt 500-1K, blast 7-10K, firestorm (minimal) then back to fire bolt and it starts all over again. Very little interruption in my throws. There are times I don't need to lure because of the other ice mages in fights, I will just start throwing. I can keep the dmg going, works well!!!
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Re: Ice vs Fire

#74
Just means you didn't have any decent fire mages on during your 6* kills
Correct me if I am wrong, but....what I'm reading is that if there was a "decent" fire mage I would not have gotten lock or kill? Interesting!!

Here is my series of hits...ice lure, shards 9-12K, firebolt 500-1K, blast 7-10K, firestorm (minimal) then back to fire bolt and it starts all over again. Very little interruption in my throws. There are times I don't need to lure because of the other ice mages in fights, I will just start throwing. I can keep the dmg going, works well!!!
Thats quite an interesting build you got there. I did not mean to offend you or any ice mages in general. I was just stating my observations on ice mages regarding 10 seconds fights.
For a fire mage a lure/bolt/storm combo takes 5.5 seconds ish. When that combo is over I can immediatly recast my firebolt again.
For an ice mage a lure/shards/blast combo takes up to 8 seconds to only cast the skills. When ice blast is done casting your iceshards reload cooldown is still at 20%(40/45/50% with skulls).

For the record. I have never denied icemages can't get the kill on bosses. On the contrary, I stated that ice and fire mages are even and that it is a matter of what mob you are fighting due to resists.

About you locking bosses(again I mean not to insult you), but getting lock depends on your lock group, not solely on yourself. How well geared your opponents are is also an important factor.
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Re: Ice vs Fire

#75
I actually overestimated ice mage dps. You'd get smoked, no offense. Are your blast and shards both on cooldown items?
You are correct, an ice mage would get smoked after 10 seconds. 10 seconds an ice mage would win, there is simply nothing else to say really. We have given you all the facts, but you choose to deny them. Ice mages have higher damage per skill hit because they are burst damage for quick fights, while fire mages have less damage, but shorter recharge for longer 10 second+ fights. Sometimes a fire mage will get kill in a quick fight just as sometimes an ice mage will get kill on a long fight, but in general ice is 10 seconds fire is longer.
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Re: Ice vs Fire

#76
I actually overestimated ice mage dps. You'd get smoked, no offense. Are your blast and shards both on cooldown items?
You are correct, an ice mage would get smoked after 10 seconds. 10 seconds an ice mage would win, there is simply nothing else to say really. We have given you all the facts, but you choose to deny them. Ice mages have higher damage per skill hit because they are burst damage for quick fights, while fire mages have less damage, but shorter recharge for longer 10 second+ fights. Sometimes a fire mage will get kill in a quick fight just as sometimes an ice mage will get kill on a long fight, but in general ice is 10 seconds fire is longer.
And no 6* boss fight or lock lasts 10 seconds, and lock fights on 5* are literally 0-5 seconds long, in which the f Mage will win because of Insta cast firebolt
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Re: Ice vs Fire

#77
I actually overestimated ice mage dps. You'd get smoked, no offense. Are your blast and shards both on cooldown items?
You are correct, an ice mage would get smoked after 10 seconds. 10 seconds an ice mage would win, there is simply nothing else to say really. We have given you all the facts, but you choose to deny them. Ice mages have higher damage per skill hit because they are burst damage for quick fights, while fire mages have less damage, but shorter recharge for longer 10 second+ fights. Sometimes a fire mage will get kill in a quick fight just as sometimes an ice mage will get kill on a long fight, but in general ice is 10 seconds fire is longer.
And no 6* boss fight or lock lasts 10 seconds, and lock fights on 5* are literally 0-5 seconds long, in which the f Mage will win because of Insta cast firebolt
Ice shards cast is only 1 second so ice would get kill.
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Re: Ice vs Fire

#78
Fire bolt + firestorm > ice shards.

The fire Mage has enough time to cast both
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Re: Ice vs Fire

#79
Fire bolt + firestorm > ice shards.

The fire Mage has enough time to cast both
Sure, maybe a fire mage would get kill in a .5 second fight over ice, but at that point insta-cast rogues would just murder. With the small exception of .5 second fights sometimes ice would always get the kill. Although in freakishly short fights very often ice still gets kill because it takes a little human time to cast two skills plus animation. In a tiny fight usually a fire mage will get off one skill same as ice; sometimes fire maybe, but again in general ice is for short 10 secondish fights and fire is for longer.
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Re: Ice vs Fire

#80
I would say there is a sweet spot, just after ice Mage gets off the ice blast where they are in the lead, but then fire Mage begins its rotation again and ice Mage is rekt.

Being very unversed in skill cast times I can't say what that sweet spot would be numerically
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