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Lure of Fire

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:59 pm
by CrewsMachine
Is it more beneficial to put 20/20 into the skill or 10/20 and use the other 10 elsewhere and why?

Re: Lure of Fire

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:27 am
by Notsofast
Depends on what you are, are you a full fire mage? An mix of ice and fire? Do you use wand at all? Maybe you have an offhand like golden blade of ice that you have to use ice lure for.

Lots of different factors affect which lure you use, post what offhand and what kind of build you are, and I might be able to help you out.

Re: Lure of Fire

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:46 am
by CrewsMachine
Thanks for the reply. Right now I'm lvl 60 and have mostly focused on fire and my e shield. I recently used a book of alt to change it up a bit to see if I could train more efficiently in Stonevale. I can go to OW but I'm not match for anything there yet.

Firebolt. 18/20
Cloak of fire. 17/20
Lure of fire. 10/20
Ice shards. 12/20
Energy well. 7/20

As you can see, I'm not exactly spreading the wealth as it were, but I am interested in creating the most efficient build possible.

Re: Lure of Fire

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:48 am
by Mariner91
Thanks for the reply. Right now I'm lvl 60 and have mostly focused on fire and my e shield. I recently used a book of alt to change it up a bit to see if I could train more efficiently in Stonevale. I can go to OW but I'm not match for anything there yet.

Firebolt. 18/20
Cloak of fire. 17/20
Lure of fire. 10/20
Ice shards. 12/20
Energy well. 7/20

As you can see, I'm not exactly spreading the wealth as it were, but I am interested in creating the most efficient build possible.

Hmm I can't comment on the energy well as I don't have it yet, but why 12/20 on Ice then 18/20 on bolt? I'd go 20/20 on bolt at the very least. Not sure how I'd balance Ice shard and Lure tho; personally, I don't have a lot of use for ice shard - no ice lure, and Im still using a Sunflower wand that does heat dmg, which is also helped by Fire Lure.

Re: Lure of Fire

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:54 am
by CrewsMachine
Sorry about that. I meant energy shield not energy well. The 12 in ice were already there otherwise I would have fire maxed. My original question was in reference to a post I read on here somewhere where the poster only put 10 points into lure of fire and I wondered why that was and where those extra points were going and why.

Re: Lure of Fire

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:31 pm
by Longcool
As I read that series of posts, it looks like the lure cost:benefit ratio becomes asymptotic at around 10, so the general consensus is no need for higher lures. You can see for yourself (when you have a skill point to spend) that the increase in weakening effect becomes smaller the higher you go, particularly as compared to increase in dmg in other spells (e.g., ice shards).

It's up to you where you put the extra points. Could be ice shards/lure (up to 10 again) if you're going for DPS. Could be fire cloak for support. Could be e-shield if you need it to solo. Could be e-boost if you don't want to spend plat for energy regen, which is my choice. My build is below. I'm alternating cloak and shards with the next few points.

ice shards 12
ice lure 5
firebolt 20 (max)
fire lure 10
e boost 11
e shield 8
fire cloak 11

Re: Lure of Fire

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:12 pm
by Papi
It depends

Look at the mobs you are leveling on. If you have more lure then they have fire defence then you are wasting points that could be used elsewhere. 10 should be enough until you get to level 100.

Re: Lure of Fire

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:26 pm
by UziTheLearned
Thanks for the reply. Right now I'm lvl 60 and have mostly focused on fire and my e shield. I recently used a book of alt to change it up a bit to see if I could train more efficiently in Stonevale. I can go to OW but I'm not match for anything there yet.

Firebolt. 18/20
Cloak of fire. 17/20
Lure of fire. 10/20
Ice shards. 12/20
Energy well. 7/20

As you can see, I'm not exactly spreading the wealth as it were, but I am interested in creating the most efficient build possible.

Hmm I can't comment on the energy well as I don't have it yet, but why 12/20 on Ice then 18/20 on bolt? I'd go 20/20 on bolt at the very least. Not sure how I'd balance Ice shard and Lure tho; personally, I don't have a lot of use for ice shard - no ice lure, and Im still using a Sunflower wand that does heat dmg, which is also helped by Fire Lure.
omg use ice shards man this is mages last stand u need ice shards!!!

Re: Lure of Fire

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:48 pm
by mdimarco
I use 10 in fire lure and 5 in ice lure after extensive testing (i may want to go to 7 on ice lure) and im lvl 121.

The effectiveness of the lure plateaus because monsters don't have that high of resists usually. However bosses have more.