Dolphins display homosexuality, as do penguins, and horses. And many othersAs in? Ive never heard of that example please.
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#52So you think that because gays exist the world is imperfect? R u insane? Perfection by its very definition is un achievable. Also can I add. Homosexuality has been around longer than your religion, respect the elders@Armo
Im not really sure the point you are trying to make here? Even if animals do exhibit some homosexual behavior what does it matter? It just means that we live in an imperfect world.
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#53No I am NOT saying that since homosexuals exist the world is imperfect. I am saying that the world is imperfect so homosexuals do exist. Its like saying that the world is imperfect because murderers exist. No, murderers exist because the world is imperfect. Yes by our own efforts perfection is unachievable. But with God, it is. Can you give me a date to when homosexuality started and when my religion started?So you think that because gays exist the world is imperfect? R u insane? Perfection by its very definition is un achievable. Also can I add. Homosexuality has been around longer than your religion, respect the elders@Armo
Im not really sure the point you are trying to make here? Even if animals do exhibit some homosexual behavior what does it matter? It just means that we live in an imperfect world.
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#54And here goes the religions fight, is it time yet to lock this thread?
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#55Your religion started after jesuses death, so we can assume about 1970 years ago, (give or take about 20 years) homosexuality has existed for at least 500,000 years (assuming homosexual animals have been around that time, some may be alive for longer) I am aware you think the world is 6000 years old but please, for the sake of argument, entertain the idea that geologists are correct. And then consider that you are condemning gays when they have no choice whatsoever in their sexual orientation, do you think someone likes being gay? Probs not. But threatening them for something they are born with is like threatening a black with slavery. Do you want to be THAT guy? No. Nobody wants to be THAT guyNo I am NOT saying that since homosexuals exist the world is imperfect. I am saying that the world is imperfect so homosexuals do exist. Its like saying that the world is imperfect because murderers exist. No, murderers exist because the world is imperfect. Yes by our own efforts perfection is unachievable. But with God, it is. Can you give me a date to when homosexuality started and when my religion started?So you think that because gays exist the world is imperfect? R u insane? Perfection by its very definition is un achievable. Also can I add. Homosexuality has been around longer than your religion, respect the elders@Armo
Im not really sure the point you are trying to make here? Even if animals do exhibit some homosexual behavior what does it matter? It just means that we live in an imperfect world.
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#56Also can I add, since time is relative, god already knows about if we will repent or not, therefore god causes eternal torture in hell. And dont give the whole free will thing, time is relative means that every atom moving in its correct space is already planned (in essentials) so every thought you have is already planned. Ergo god controls peoples minds, so really, free will isnt real. And just another construction by a being that literally has a god complex
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#57To clarify, my "religion" has been around since the beginning of time. It wasnt until 1970 or so years ago that Jesus lived and his disciples recorded it. The Old Testament was written way before Jesus also.
And I am sorry but I cannot except that the geologists are right on this one. The Bible says that either you are for God or against God. There is no middle ground. I am not abandoning my faith for "arguements sake".
So therefore, I disagree that homosexuality has been around longer than my religion.
I will agree with you that some people can be born homosexual. But that still doesnt make it not a sin. Homosexuality is a sin and needs to be repented of just like any other sin. I am by no means a perfect person, I have sins I struggle with just like anyone else. But different people struggle with different sins, I struggle with things that a homosexual person might not struggle with, and vice versa. I have no basis to judge someones eternity, but God does. And from what He tells us, everyone has sinned and everyone deserves condemnation. But only through Jesus can we be saved and be with God forever.
And I am sorry but I cannot except that the geologists are right on this one. The Bible says that either you are for God or against God. There is no middle ground. I am not abandoning my faith for "arguements sake".
So therefore, I disagree that homosexuality has been around longer than my religion.
I will agree with you that some people can be born homosexual. But that still doesnt make it not a sin. Homosexuality is a sin and needs to be repented of just like any other sin. I am by no means a perfect person, I have sins I struggle with just like anyone else. But different people struggle with different sins, I struggle with things that a homosexual person might not struggle with, and vice versa. I have no basis to judge someones eternity, but God does. And from what He tells us, everyone has sinned and everyone deserves condemnation. But only through Jesus can we be saved and be with God forever.
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#58+1 Ghandy.To clarify, my "religion" has been around since the beginning of time. It wasnt until 1970 or so years ago that Jesus lived and his disciples recorded it. The Old Testament was written way before Jesus also.
And I am sorry but I cannot except that the geologists are right on this one. The Bible says that either you are for God or against God. There is no middle ground. I am not abandoning my faith for "arguements sake".
So therefore, I disagree that homosexuality has been around longer than my religion.
I will agree with you that some people can be born homosexual. But that still doesnt make it not a sin. Homosexuality is a sin and needs to be repented of just like any other sin. I am by no means a perfect person, I have sins I struggle with just like anyone else. But different people struggle with different sins, I struggle with things that a homosexual person might not struggle with, and vice versa. I have no basis to judge someones eternity, but God does. And from what He tells us, everyone has sinned and everyone deserves condemnation. But only through Jesus can we be saved and be with God forever.
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#59Yes i think its time to lock, what do u think liv?
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#60+1 as wellTo clarify, my "religion" has been around since the beginning of time. It wasnt until 1970 or so years ago that Jesus lived and his disciples recorded it. The Old Testament was written way before Jesus also.
And I am sorry but I cannot except that the geologists are right on this one. The Bible says that either you are for God or against God. There is no middle ground. I am not abandoning my faith for "arguements sake".
So therefore, I disagree that homosexuality has been around longer than my religion.
I will agree with you that some people can be born homosexual. But that still doesnt make it not a sin. Homosexuality is a sin and needs to be repented of just like any other sin. I am by no means a perfect person, I have sins I struggle with just like anyone else. But different people struggle with different sins, I struggle with things that a homosexual person might not struggle with, and vice versa. I have no basis to judge someones eternity, but God does. And from what He tells us, everyone has sinned and everyone deserves condemnation. But only through Jesus can we be saved and be with God forever.
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